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I'm trying to identfy a cartridge I have. It appears to be a 8x57 mm. It is a rimmed case. It looks like the 8mm mauser, (8x57 rimless.) The markings on the case show 19 on one side, 16 on the the other, Vll on the bottom, and D,A, and possilby C on the top. Could anyone share with me exactly what I have. I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks,
Tim
Just a suggestion, try this site with your question:

http://www.ows-ammunition.com/cgi-bin/store/store.cgi?shop=ows&spage=contactus.html

It's been awhile since I've been in the cartridge collecting. Are you sure this isn't a 303 British. I had some cartridges that had the DAC on them. Seems to me that were the 303. the 19 16 would of course "be made 1916".
I miked the specs on both a 8x57 Mauser, and a 303 British. It is an 8mm dia. for sure. I wonder if it isn't the 8x57 jr!!!!!! That would be a different version of the 8x57.
Thanks for your input.
Tim
If you are sure that it is military, I think that Mannlicher/Schnourer (spelling?) made an 8x56.

What I actually would guess first would be the 8x57R for break-open guns, and that you have a sporting rather than a military round.

Fireplug
The DAC could be this
DAC
Dominion Arsenal, Quebec, Canada
I found that on this web site
http://cartridgecollectors.org/headstampcodes_bottom.htm
Could be a good place to start- There are a few cartridge collecting web sites if you do a search.
Somewhere I read that this caliber is the 2004 Classic remington produces every year???
I'll guess 8x57 mm JRS, which is simply a rimmed version of the 8mm Mauser (8x57 mm JS). The rimmed version was used in combination guns and single shots.

The round was introduced in 1888 with a .318" diameter bullet, but was adapted to .323" in 1905 to correspond with the change in the military round. The "S" or "JS" suffix is used to denote the larger bore diameter. The "R" is for "rimmed" of course.
Jog,
Thanks for the info on the 8x57. I suspected what you said after doing some research on the net, and in some books. I believe you're right on the button, and many thanks for helping me out with the identity of this case. I really appreciate it Jog.

Thanks again,
Tim
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