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With another change of ownership and undoubted production delays and I would guess fewer models do you all think the JM guns will go up more?

Be safe. Spence


I'm bettin' RemLin prices will drop


Vintage by another "generation"...oh yeah.
Maybe. I just hope Ruger treats the brand right and reintroduces the M39 and we get the 338 Marlin and 450 back. Hoping the best.
I don't understand the premium attached to JM rifles. My JM 1895 has truly terrible machine work in places. The bolt looks like it was gnawed to shape by a beaver. I've heard horror stories about the remlins, but the last ones I saw seemed much nicer than mine.
Can't see original JM's going anywhere but up up up, with or without the Ruger purchase.
Originally Posted by MTDan
I don't understand the premium attached to JM rifles. My JM 1895 has truly terrible machine work in places. The bolt looks like it was gnawed to shape by a beaver. I've heard horror stories about the remlins, but the last ones I saw seemed much nicer than mine.


I agree 100%. The early to mid 2000 Marlins were the worst due to worn out machinery and lack of pride and quality once the Marlin employees knew Remington bought the company.



Can't find anything bad about my JMs other than the furniture was plain jane.
Originally Posted by Ghostman
Originally Posted by MTDan
I don't understand the premium attached to JM rifles. My JM 1895 has truly terrible machine work in places. The bolt looks like it was gnawed to shape by a beaver. I've heard horror stories about the remlins, but the last ones I saw seemed much nicer than mine.


I agree 100%. The early to mid 2000 Marlins were the worst due to worn out machinery and lack of pride and quality once the Marlin employees knew Remington bought the company.


I think you'll find folks here mostly own and are referring to JM's much older than mid 2000's.

I wouldn't and don't own much of anything made from the mid 2000's to present.
The recent stuff was made on modern CNC machines. The last era of the JM and the first few years of Remlin was crap.
They invested all the money for the right machinery. Now Ruger benefits from it.

There should be no warm up period for the Ruger Marlins to catch up to the most recent Remlins.

If someone is collecting, then maybe a JM means something. But for a working gun, it will be a far better gun with current production methods.



Shall purchase 1 or 2 of the newest incarnations if the stocks and fore end fit and finish improves even slightly better than a few of my remlins which aren't too far off.

Newest version innards require less polishing than previously. Fun to slick'em and tune'em, tho.
I think the price of JM's won't change much unless Ruger drops the ball and doesn't make a quality 336.
I really don't think Ruger will hurt the brand, and probably will help it.
I think it depends on what Ruger's plans for the company are. Ruger CAN build a very nice rifle but they don't always. Lets imagine some parallels: if Ruger holds the quality of the Marlins to something similar to the M77 family and the #1, they will be a fine lever action rifle, but if they try to make them marketable to the Ruger American buyer, they'll suck.

Tom
Originally Posted by Ghostman
Originally Posted by MTDan
I don't understand the premium attached to JM rifles. My JM 1895 has truly terrible machine work in places. The bolt looks like it was gnawed to shape by a beaver. I've heard horror stories about the remlins, but the last ones I saw seemed much nicer than mine.


I agree 100%. The early to mid 2000 Marlins were the worst due to worn out machinery and lack of pride and quality once the Marlin employees knew Remington bought the company.


Yep, I owned 3 from same time period. All were a piece of crap. I would look for a a Remlin long before a JM.

As far as value the current Remlins are exploding. I purchased a new SBL in 45-70 less than a year ago for $900.
Just checked Gunbrokers and new ones are going for $1600-1700.
I have owned one of the early 1980s 1895 Warning -JM with no un-needed extra safety and a
very good pistol grip. Fit and finish were excellent-practical 22 inch barrel. With Lyman receiver sight and black
solid Pachmayer pad-it handles loads -"loaded for bear' very accurately.
The 1970s 1895s had the straight stocks and squared levers. But they all were quality-early. Marlin rifles.
Mine has a home-and it is reliable in Alaska or anywhere.

That being said-I really would prefer my pre-war Model 71 Winchester in 450 Alaskan-in my hands-
if both mama and cub are bearing down on me like the guide and hunter in WY two years ago.
Don't trust bear spray by itself.......
Remlins have skyrocketed on GB
Originally Posted by Rodney482
Remlins have skyrocketed on GB


No shizt! Check out this 1895 GBL:
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/886812684

I paid $900 and change for a new one less than a year ago. Could easily double my money on it if I wanted to as it is still new in the box. Kind of ironic after so many claimed they junk. Junk or not, Remlins have been a great investment.
Why would any stupid fuquer pay more than the price of the greatest gun to ever grace god's green planet, other than a ticka or a self shuckker ar15, A henry?
dumb bitches.



GOD is spelled G-O-D.

Henry's are for dumb bitches and "stupid fuquers".
My apologies.
T'was heavy on the sauce.
Originally Posted by Snowwolfe
Originally Posted by Rodney482
Remlins have skyrocketed on GB


No shizt! Check out this 1895 GBL:
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/886812684

I paid $900 and change for a new one less than a year ago. Could easily double my money on it if I wanted to as it is still new in the box. Kind of ironic after so many claimed they junk. Junk or not, Remlins have been a great investment.
And that proves precisely nothing. Prices of just about everything have skyrocketed on GB. Mossberg pump shotguns that were 300.00 a year ago have been going for 6 - 700.00 lately. There is a shortage of guns on the market in case anybody hadn't noticed so naturally prices go up.
I wonder if the Ruger folks would, or could, drop the stupid cross bolt safties on the lever guns.



Safety features do not impinge on the operation of a shooter that "practices". We all REMEMBER to not touch a trigger until ready to shoot...why would a "safety" confuse you??

Are you familiar with the world of the 2020's liability and litigation realities?
What made you conclude I am confused?

I just think they are totally unnecessary on a lever gun and they look bad. YMMV



You called a safety mechanism..."stupid"...yeah, you ARE confused.
Originally Posted by muleshoe
I wonder if the Ruger folks would, or could, drop the stupid cross bolt safties on the lever guns.



prob not

it's not attractive at all...

Useful I guess if you have to empty magazine fast

Delete if you don't like....much cleaner lines
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