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Posted By: ringworm Old glenfeild or new marlin - 10/31/15
Say you have found a lnib marlin store brand, glenfeild or other ... Beside a new production 2015 marlin for the same money.
Which would you prefer and why?
Ring,

The Glenfield of course. Depending on the year manufactured
the Glenfield your considering will have the short magazine tube and smooth birth stocks or the full magazine tube and pressed checking in what I call the Glenfield pattern. The pressed pattern likely has a scroll like design.

The only difference between the Glenfield and the 336 model of the same era is the wood. The short magazine Glenfield models are hard to find these days and desirable.

The short magazine models really shoot...buy the rifle now.

The name Glenfield comes from a separate company Marlin set up in New York called the Glenfield Co which handled
the sales of marlin rifles to the discount big box stores during the time frame these guns were built.

Doc

I would be much more likely to buy a new Marlin 336 if it was the same price as any used Glenfield or other house-brand Marlin. I saw a Westernfield, Montgomery Wards' house-brand, Marlin 336 the other day for $250 that looked great on the right side, but was, sadly, rusted/pitted on the left side.
Posted By: pal Re: Old glenfeild or new marlin - 10/31/15
Neither. There are better choices.

I would instead look for a vintage Marlin in near new condition.

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The fellers over on Marlinowners.com seem to like the Glenfields a lot, and aren't real fond of the dual band rifles, they like the capped forearms of the house brands.
Some claim the capped guns shoot better.

Of course, they are adamantly opposed to the Remlin guns, favoring the JM marked guns, either Marlin or house brands.

Based on the new guns I've looked at, I don't blame them a bit, and looked pretty hard for an older gun when I bought a 1960 336SC this spring. It's an odd configuration, but I like it a lot. Some of the house brand Glenfields mimic it, with the 20" barrel and half-magazine. Nice little rifles.

The newer ones I've looked at, have had canted front sights, and poorly fitted wood furniture. They are getting a lot better, but those early Remlins truly sucketh mightily, and Remington's customer service wins no awards, either.

I'd look for an older Marlin without the safety button, and they aren't hard to find. Marlin has made millions of the things, after all. They are pretty common in all the pawn shops around here.

Locally, the new ones run about $400, while older ones run a bit less, not much, but some. I bought mine for $350, and thought I stole it, honestly.
A few years ago, I passed up a 336A in .35 Remington for $299, it wasn't D&Ted for a scope, and I need eye help. I should have bought it anyway.
Posted By: pal Re: Old glenfeild or new marlin - 10/31/15
The Glenfields used a lower grade wood; perhaps some other cheap stuff.
Originally Posted by pal
The Glenfields used a lower grade wood; perhaps some other cheap stuff.


Just the wood was substituted with birch stocks, the remaining metal work parts etc came down the production line as any other model 336.

Doc
What Doc said. A Glenfield is a Marlin in work clothes. No comparison between the JM Ct.-made Marlins/Glenfields and the Remington guns.
Posted By: jt402 Re: Old glenfeild or new marlin - 12/08/15
I own a '68 vintage Glenfield. Other than the birch stocks, the only differences between it and a regular Marlin is the writing on the barrel and the sights. The Glenfield has the spring steel rear sight and the front sight is not on a ramp, but in a milled dovetail. Same finish on the metal as regular Marlins.

Don't buy a Glenfield. Leave them for those of us who appreciate them for what they are. Great working rifles.

BTW, I have a set of presentation grade walnut for mine, just in case I decide to dress it up.

Jack
From what I've seen of the new ones I'm not a big fan. Impressed checkering, rough action, seems like a low quality product right now. But maybe they will get better. I hope so.
Posted By: jt402 Re: Old glenfeild or new marlin - 01/09/16
Remington started the 336 line as "express " finished rifles. Workmanship was likely rushed by bean counting executives. ( I don't always blame labor for poor quality.)

They finally went to an available nicer finish. It seems as though the carrier that transfers the cartridge from magazine to chamber, is not being hardened and needs replacing at about 400-500 rounds, from several reports. For some, that is a lifetime of shooting. For others, four to six months wears out the carrier. I don't think Remington had any idea that lots of folks used lever guns for recreational shooting.

Jack
I stopped
looking at Marlin rifles when Remington bought them out




















I stopped looking at Marlin rifles when Remington bought them out












I will never buy a new remlin. I would definitely go for a glenfield over a remlin. Although glenfield in very good condition tends to go for around $400 or so, I believe they are charging around $500-600 for the new remlins, thourgh they are'nt worth a quarter of that in my book.

I would not buy a glenfield for that much unless it was in 35 rem (they hardly made any in 35 rem).

I recently picked up a Glenfield model 30 in 35 rem. Same configuration as a 336SC just has a glenfield roll stamp and birch wood. As of now this gelnfield is one of my most accurate Marlins. I was super impressed with how well it shot the hornady lever evolution.

in my opinion the 336A, 336SC's are the nicest of the 336 line, and you can find them on online for reasonable prices, minus the deluxe and LTD models of course.

+1 for glenfield!
Posted By: T4HALO Re: Old glenfeild or new marlin - 01/23/16
I own probably 12-14 Marlin rifles...non have a crossbolt safety. It is hard for me to understand why anyone would purchase one of these thrown together POS modern rifles when quality rifles from the 40s, 50s and 60s can be had for the same or less money. Craftsmanship in America today is far from what it was years ago.

T4
Posted By: Bugger Re: Old glenfeild or new marlin - 01/23/16
The Glenfields had at least one flaw. The retaining pin for the magazine tube was weak/undersized. I replaced mine with a Marlin pin etc.

I have several Marlins and I've sold my 444 because I was disappointed in the ability to shoot the cast bullets I wanted to shoot.

I would not have an issue with a new Marlin.
Originally Posted by GrahamVT
I will never buy a new remlin. I would definitely go for a glenfield over a remlin. Although glenfield in very good condition tends to go for around $400 or so, I believe they are charging around $500-600 for the new remlins, thourgh they are'nt worth a quarter of that in my book.

I would not buy a glenfield for that much unless it was in 35 rem (they hardly made any in 35 rem).

I recently picked up a Glenfield model 30 in 35 rem. Same configuration as a 336SC just has a glenfield roll stamp and birch wood. As of now this gelnfield is one of my most accurate Marlins. I was super impressed with how well it shot the hornady lever evolution.

in my opinion the 336A, 336SC's are the nicest of the 336 line, and you can find them on online for reasonable prices, minus the deluxe and LTD models of course.

+1 for glenfield!



you were very fortunate to find a Glenfield model 30 in .35. Mot many of that caliber produced and when found are demanding high prices.

Doc
I'm a sucker for a Glenfield, have owned two that were very accurate and a joy to carry.
Originally Posted by ringworm
Say you have found a lnib marlin store brand, glenfeild or other ... Beside a new production 2015 marlin for the same money.
Which would you prefer and why?


If you blindfolded yourself and handled both rifles, you would find the Glenfield to feel trimmer, lighter and handle better all around.
I'd buy the Glenfield.

Glenfield for me
The Glenfield. Those Glenfield's were good guns!
Posted By: g5m Re: Old glenfeild or new marlin - 11/23/16
I'd buy the Glenfield, too, for reasons stated above.
Posted By: Bugger Re: Old glenfeild or new marlin - 11/24/16
I have an Glenfield 30-30 or had one. It's now my wife's. (I like her.)
I also have an old 336 in 35 Remington. It's my second 35 336.

No flies on either. I did a little work on the Glenfield. I think my wife's Glenfield is a very early model.

I keep hearing from Remlin haters and I've also heard that Remington has fixed the issues with their "Marlins". I don't know about the Rremlins, I guess.
The latest issue of Rifle has a piece by Brian Pearce on new production, CNC Marlins. They started a new production line from scratch. The major parts are still forged, with the exception of the carrier, which is machined from other stock, the same way they were many years ago. Before they built the new line, the company queried Pearce about switching from forgings to another type of steel and he was adamant about the importance of using forgings for quality, durability, and to maintain the reputation of the product.

The article is generally positive, with a few quibbles about the square ends on the forends and a slightly heavy trigger pull. Accuracy was good, and the actions were tight, but smooth. Nothing was said about any malfunctions whatsoever.

Pearce knows lever guns as well as anyone, and has no qualms about criticizing manufacturers as needed. Based on this article, I'd at least give the new ones a look in person before dismissing them. I wish he'd included a C model, along with the LTD and CBs he tested, but he IS a large caliber fan.
I'd like to get a new one but have looked at several recently and the checkering REALLY SUCKS. I can't recall ever seeing such poorly cut checkering on anything.
I picked up a Remlin 336Y recently. Wood isn't walnut, appears to possibly be birch, but it's smooth and well built. My understanding is Remington bought Marlin with the understanding they could duplicate the equipment. Problem was, the equipment was so worn out the Marlin guns, took a lot of hand work. Ergo, the Remlins started out rough. Today I believe there are built better than the later Marlins the last year or two. Far as I'm concerned either buy older or a new Remlin if you come across one you like, at the right price.
I'm a huge fan of my Glenfield carbine! 30-30 always works well for me because of it's usable power at typical forest distances plus it's inherent accuracy. This carbine has been faithfully putting meat on our dinner plates for several decades.

Sherwood

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Old glenfield without a doubt.
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