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Marlin has apparently re-cataloged the Texan Deluxe and it is featured in the new email they are sending out.

There are a few on Gunbroker at present for around the $800 mark but Rural King, also known as Big R stores released their daily sales email yesterday with this rifle featured for $399.00.
I bought mine. They are in .30/30 only.
Go get'em.
John
Posted By: tmitch Re: Marlin 336 Texan Deluxe - 07/20/18
There are different "Texans". The $800 guns are the 336TDL Texan Deluxe. By the picture and the SKU # in their add, Big R is selling the 336WTE Texan Edition. Still not a bad price though.
Posted By: OlRufus Re: Marlin 336 Texan Deluxe - 07/20/18
RK/Marlin can call it what they choose but the rifle pictured online with the ad has a curved pistol grip stock so it ain’t no Texan to me.
The Texan deluxe model does have the straight grip stock like the older Texans but not so with the rifle RK is selling.
Posted By: CP Re: Marlin 336 Texan Deluxe - 07/20/18
Is there a "W" version of the Texan? I have seen several ads for the Texan and the vendors were using the "C" stock photo in their advertisement. It does not make a great deal of sense, but that is what they have done.

John, how is the fit and function of your Texan? I want to buy one, but I am still a little concerned about the quality of the Remington-Marlins. CP.
Posted By: tmitch Re: Marlin 336 Texan Deluxe - 07/20/18
Texan Deluxe
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Texas Edition
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Posted By: CP Re: Marlin 336 Texan Deluxe - 07/20/18
Take a look at this offering and the listed specs:
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/779577704
Posted By: tmitch Re: Marlin 336 Texan Deluxe - 07/20/18
Originally Posted by CP
Take a look at this offering and the listed specs:
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/779577704


A lot of confusion, even by retailers. Even though they call it a "Texan Deluxe", the MFR #70522 designates it as a "Texas Edition" same as this one; https://www.gunbroker.com/item/771724917 and the one RK is selling.
The real Texan Deluxe is MFR #70534 like this one; https://www.marlinfirearms.com/lever-action/model-336/model-336tdl-texan-deluxe
Much different rifle. Still, $400 for a Texas Edition isn't a bad price but it's not a Deluxe
Posted By: CP Re: Marlin 336 Texan Deluxe - 07/20/18
The SKU for the real Deluxe Texan is: 70534
Posted By: CP Re: Marlin 336 Texan Deluxe - 07/20/18
Yeah-I don't think they know what they are selling...
Hey fella's, how come no-one read this on the same page?

"Please Note: Many of our pictures are stock photos provided to us by the manufacturer and do not necessarily represent the actual item being purchased. Please do not rely on the picture. You should instead verify that the MPN and UPC correspond to the gun you wish to purchase."

The stock pic provided is is W version with a birch stock and pistol grip and is the wrong item. Hence the above rider from RK.
The Texan Deluxe has a SKU number of 70522 as stated by CP above and also stated by RK on the rifles description.

"The Texan Deluxe model has a walnut stock and forend with a deeply blued metal finish. It has a Marble Arms semi-buckhorn rear right and ramp front sight. This Texan Deluxe Texas Edition model has a 20" barrel and features an engraved scroll with "TEXAS EDITION" on one side and the Marlin horse and rider inside an outline of Texas on the other."


Miss out now and bitch later, it's the innernet way........lol.
John
Originally Posted by tmitch
Originally Posted by CP
Take a look at this offering and the listed specs:
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/779577704


A lot of confusion, even by retailers. Even though they call it a "Texan Deluxe", the MFR #70522 designates it as a "Texas Edition" same as this one; https://www.gunbroker.com/item/771724917 and the one RK is selling.
The real Texan Deluxe is MFR #70534 like this one; https://www.marlinfirearms.com/lever-action/model-336/model-336tdl-texan-deluxe
Much different rifle. Still, $400 for a Texas Edition isn't a bad price but it's not a Deluxe


But I could still be totally wrong here.
There is no MFR 70522 in the Marlin Catalog. The verbiage in both the advertisement and the receipt says "Texan Deluxe" repeatedly, so because of the 10 day wait, who knows?
John
Posted By: Blackheart Re: Marlin 336 Texan Deluxe - 07/20/18
I had a real JM Marlin Texan many years ago. It was alot better looking rifle than that new Texan Deluxe. No, the wood wasn't as nice and it didn't have engraving or the spiffy little gold horse/rider logo but the forearm was much slimmer and it had a hooded ramp front sight and a rounded, rather than square lever loop. Leave it to Remington to fugg up the styling.
Posted By: tmitch Re: Marlin 336 Texan Deluxe - 07/21/18
It wasn't Remington that changed the design. There were several releases of Marlin Texans since its introduction in '51, round levers were squared off in '70.
I personally prefer the looks and feel of the squared off lever on the straight grip stock. YMMV

AGW, I sincerely hope you get the Deluxe model, and yeah, I'll be pissin' and moanin' that I didn't pull the trigger! cry After looking into it more, I'm not confident enough it won't be a W series (hardwood stock, bead blast finish) to finalize the sale of the one I put in my shopping cart. Let us know what you get.
Posted By: Blackheart Re: Marlin 336 Texan Deluxe - 07/21/18
It was Remingtton that put the pot bellied forearm and plain, non ramped front sight on it. The '70's JM's with the squared finger lever still had a slim forearm that matched the countour of the receiver and a hooded, ramped front sight. I wouldn't trust Remington to build a slingshot and get it right. YMMV.
Posted By: tmitch Re: Marlin 336 Texan Deluxe - 07/21/18
Too many variations of the Texan to make a blanket statement.

Forearm on early '80s Texan
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Front sight on late 80's 30TK (Kmart spec'd Texan)
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Again it wasn't Remington.
Posted By: CP Re: Marlin 336 Texan Deluxe - 07/21/18
Do you believe that all of the Texan Editions (SKU 70522) are 2018-17 production? If so, this group of rifles may give us a benchmark of the current QC at Remlin. It sure would be interesting to hear a few fit, finish and function reports on the Texan Edition. CP.
Posted By: Blackheart Re: Marlin 336 Texan Deluxe - 07/21/18
Originally Posted by tmitch
Too many variations of the Texan to make a blanket statement.

Forearm on early '80s Texan
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Front sight on late 80's 30TK (Kmart spec'd Texan)
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Again it wasn't Remington.
The K-Mart version sure as hell ain't a Texan. Cheap , birch stocked, half mag, economy grade carbine that would have worn the "Glenfield" name in the 70's. They gotta save money somewhere on those department store specials hence the chaep wood and sights.. And yes, Marlin did fugg up the styling on some of their rifles when they were still in North Haven and still wore the JM stamp. Never liked the fat "perch belly" forearms or the crossbolt safeties nor the checkering they started putting on all the later Walnut stocked models. All that aside I've owned a lot of North Haven Marlins over the years and considered them about the best value out there in a blue collar working mans gun. Never had any problems to speak of with any of mine and almost every one was acceptably to exceptionally accurate for what they are. Wish I could say the same for all the Remingtons I bought but I can't. In fact, between those I've owned myself and others I've worked on throughout my gunsmithing career, I've seen enough outright junk from Remington that I've sworn them off completely. I do still have seven JM Marlins in the house and will probably buy more in the future but big green will never get another dollar from me.
Posted By: tmitch Re: Marlin 336 Texan Deluxe - 07/21/18
They also made a short Texan know as the LTS in the late 80s without a ramp.

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Yeah, but compared to today’s “Glenfields’ with the black bolt and matte finishes, the 30TK is only a couple of steps away from being a real classic.

Agreed that the wood and the front sight cheapens it. But I bought my 30TK for the guide gun like configuration knowing exactly how it was different/less than a late sixties Texan.

If they’d brought out the same rifle now with walnut and the same slim forearm and the old RC hooded sight, I think it might be a hit. Just put a bullseye and a gold trigger on it and call it a 336GT.
Posted By: Blackheart Re: Marlin 336 Texan Deluxe - 07/21/18
Originally Posted by CP
Do you believe that all of the Texan Editions (SKU 70522) are 2018-17 production? If so, this group of rifles may give us a benchmark of the current QC at Remlin. It sure would be interesting to hear a few fit, finish and function reports on the Texan Edition. CP.
No experince with the new Texan but a friend of mine did buy a new stainless 336 .30-30 this past October. I examined it and went to the range with him right after he got it for initial sight in. I shot the thing and it did function and was acceptably accurate with the Winchester factory loads he brought for it that day. The stock finish however was certainly nothing to brag on with visibly uneven wood surface underneath. The checkering looked like it was done by a five year old with the corner of a brick and the edges of the finger lever were so sharp as to be uncomfortable.
Posted By: Blackheart Re: Marlin 336 Texan Deluxe - 07/21/18
Originally Posted by tmitch
They also made a short Texan know as the LTS in the late 80s without a ramp.

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That's an ugly little bastard too but so are most "trappers" and at least the forearm isn't pregnant.
Posted By: Blackheart Re: Marlin 336 Texan Deluxe - 07/21/18
Originally Posted by DollarShort
Yeah, but compared to today’s “Glenfields’ with the black bolt and matte finishes, the 30TK is only a couple of steps away from being a real classic.

Agreed that the wood and the front sight cheapens it. But I bought my 30TK for the guide gun like configuration knowing exactly how it was different/less than a late sixties Texan.

If they’d brought out the same rifle now with walnut and the same slim forearm and the old RC hooded sight, I think it might be a hit. Just put a bullseye and a gold trigger on it and call it a 336GT.
Agreed on all counts.
Posted By: JMR40 Re: Marlin 336 Texan Deluxe - 07/22/18
I like the Texans.


levers
Posted By: Dillonbuck Re: Marlin 336 Texan Deluxe - 07/23/18
I don't F'n care what it's called.
If you like it, I'm happy for you.
I hope you fall further in love after shooting it.
Yep. That’s all that matters. I considered buying a youth model 336 for quite a while. And the BL. I really like them all.
Posted By: Angus1895 Re: Marlin 336 Texan Deluxe - 07/24/18
Marlinitis........

Gotta luv em all!
Posted By: rem141r Re: Marlin 336 Texan Deluxe - 07/25/18
that deluxe looks nice. i would prefer an 18" barrel though.
Posted By: tmitch Re: Marlin 336 Texan Deluxe - 07/25/18
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
I don't F'n care what it's called.
If you like it, I'm happy for you.
I hope you fall further in love after shooting it.


I agree. The discussion was whether the OP will get an $800+ Texan Deluxe for a bargain when the Rural King picture and MFG number identifies it as a lesser grade rifle. Some people cant help but pontificate on new vs old Marlins.
UPDATE:
The rifle arrived today and I walked away from it.
The rifle itself was well finished, sights aligned, Birch Stock (With some figure in the butt stock) with alignment of forend stock to the magazine tube.
I would say the overall finish although likely the same spec's as the base "W" model presented better with a smoothness to the metal work and stock finish that was superior to the "W" versions I have recently looked at, so it was a good rifle and certainly worth the $399 price point if that is what you are after but............

A couple of days ago I stumbled on a brand new 336C for $525 that was everything in quality finish and alignment I have seen in the many Marlin 336's I have owned and used over the last 40 years or so. Will see if I can pick that one up on Monday. There are no used Marlins within a tank of petrol of where I life, so used is off the table.
That is the current plan.
John
Posted By: CP Re: Marlin 336 Texan Deluxe - 07/28/18
John, a number of ads for the Texas Edition are claiming that the rifle has a walnut stock, but I also noted from an actual picture of one that it had a "Hardwood" walnut-stained stock. The most interesting thing to me was the date code of (H) on this particular rifle, which indicates a 2013 DOM. I would really like to learn the back story on this Texas Edition run. By chance, did you look at the date code on the rifle you examined? CP.
Earlier this week, I saw the Texas Edition $449 behind the counter at Academy standing right next to the W $399, and without getting any closer than that couldn’t tell the difference other than the price.
Looked like the same rifle from six feet away. Must be something for an extra fifty bucks.
Picked up an MR 336C today.
Nicer walnut than I have had on any previous Marlin going back 45+ years, with good wood to metal fit, aligned sights and about usual standard bluing, maybe a touch less glossy but not Marshield. Lever is as smooth as any new one I have reviewed in the past. Will put some factory rounds through it to check the sights and see what it likes then start some handloads.

Date code is DK which is September 2016.
Came from Illinois where rifles are verboten for hunting. You see, coming from a socialist country, I can say with qualification that when government recognizes a firearm for hunting, they just legitimized its ownership and that is the last thing Commo's want.
Gotta love 2A.
John
Epilogue..........
The MR 336 I bought has been tested and the following was noted;

Mods included the fitting of the large loop as it fits my hands better and the addition of a 60 odd year old Weaver K3 in Weaver mounts.

Setting my Oehler 35P chronograph about 15 feet in front of the 50 yard benches, I sighted the rifle with factory ammo and began testing handloads with the 150 grain Barnes TSXFN which is a cave point hollow nosed bullet that has been around for some time before the TSX was introduced in 2003 though seldom talked about. The factory rounds I used were Winchester 150gn soft points and Remington 150gn Corelokts. The tests also included 7 powders all loaded in Federal brass that I bought primed so lets assume they are also Federal primers at this point.

The powders tested included H 4198, Varget, H 335, H 322, H 414, Reloder 7 and AA2230 where loads were worked up in half grain increments and shot for groups over the 35P over a warm day that averaged 75 F. All loads were crimped except 1 because I was still fooling around with the crimping at that point but decided to shoot them uncrimped anyway. I was using RCBS dies and crimping during the bullet seating.

Best results came from H 4198 where 24grains seated to 2.457" OAL recorded 2127fps and shot .667". Continuing the powder charges up to 25.5gn yielded 2348fps which is really where I wanted to be and .997", still very good, based on previous testing with other rifles over the years.

The other standout powder was H 335 which with the same OAL and 34grains yielded 2456fps which was the top velocity of the day generating 2010FPE at the muzzle and a group of .666" makes it a "devil of a load" for whitetail. The interesting point here is that a lower charge of 33 grains was also tested that was not crimped which yielded 2471fps, more than the heavier charge and accuracy was not as good with 1.888" recorded.

There were several groups right on the inch mark including the Winchester Factory loads, which chronographed 2361fps (The Remington's measured 2390fps and 1.651") 34gn of Varget for 2311fps and 1.120", 37gn of H414 for 1.123" and 31gn of AA2230 which yielded 2286fps and 1.090".

The end result means I have several powders on my shelf that work well and several more than can be relied upon for minute of whitetail and it is worth pointing out that many of the wide groups where vertical stringing from a dead on center bull for the 1st round, such as the H414 load and the AA2230 load which "could" be caused by the barrel heating up and the warm day.

The main point is that these groups were and are just indicators and each will be reviewed again when I get to them with some tweaking of charge and monitoring of the seating depth which is really going overboard when you think of the purpose of this rifle, but I like to play with them.

As to the rifle, it is as good, well made and finished as any other Marlin I have owned or tested over the last 45 years and although there are lemons with every rifle brand and model ever made, most of the internet doom and gloom typed relating to the current 336's is not applicable to my sample. Believe me when I say, as someone who specialized in rifle reviews, I have seen a lot and rejected a few along the way for various reasons that would make an interesting list, but don't kid yourself that American's have forgotten how to make a good rifle. It just ain't so. My 336 has very good well figured walnut, checkering though not really necessary on a lever is clean and adequate, as is wood to metal fit and the metalwork well finished and bluing polished and even. Most important is the action cycling and ejection which wad smooth and reliable to this point.

Like all rifles in my rack, it has to earn its keep but upon initial examination, handling and range work, it looks like a keeper.

John Woods
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