Okay, I don't shoot it or reload for it, never have. I'm helping an old timer from the ranges I go to with selling/buying/moving his pretty extensive collection. He literally has mountains of brass, literally! In some of it that I've been going through, I came across 12 pcs of R-P and 4 pcs of Hornady still in his tumbler. As I sifted them out I noticed they're definitely once fired, no marks from a sizing die whatsoever (he's a brass whore to the inth degree!). Second thing I noticed is that the Hornady is noticeably shorter than the R-P. Is this normal for this cartridge? Hornady on the left, R-P on the right.

The 16 pcs of once fired brass (12 - R-P and 4 - Hornady) are available for the price of shipping if any one's interested.

The Hornady brass in question......

Is factory ammo 1X that were the 'gummy tips' ammo

I'm outta the 444 business but still makes no sense to me

45-70 is the same way...Gummy Tips = short brass....reload with gummy tips only

Now..if you buy Hornady 444 or 45-70 new brass only....its regular length


http://castboolits.gunloads.com/sho...ss-quot-Short-quot-and-quot-Regular-quot

these

'Flex Tip'

for tube mags....designed to shoot flatter

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1001695535?pid=436189

He has some (actually a lot!) of 45-70 ammo and some of it is the Hornady soft tip stuff. I'll have to check it against the regular bullet stuff.

He has some (actually a lot!) of 45-70 ammo and some of it is the Hornady soft tip stuff. I'll have to check it against the regular bullet stuff.