Does anyone have experience with Nitto's on a 3/4-1 ton with diesel application? I know nothing about these tires, but I'm in need of a new set.

The Firestone Transforce AT's that came on my 3/4 Ram are already down to the tread wear indicators at just 22k miles. Crap tires.

Just wondering how they do with a heavy load on them (5th wheel) and mileage (longevity). Looking at the Terra Grappler and Ridge Grappler.

Thanks!

Had Terra Grappler's (1st Gen) on my 2014 Ram 2500. About 30k miles and they were done. Put Michelin Defenders on after the Nitto's and got 55k miles out of them. Much smoother and quieter ride with the Michelins. Now running a second set of them.

I've got a set of the 2nd generation Grapplers on my 3/4 ton Ram, but not enough miles on them to comment; sorry.

look here.......DTD..........lots of tire choices.........

Cooper AT3s........Falkin Wildpeak AT3s.........are real popular

BFG KO2s ? never ran Nitto's either

https://www.discounttiredirect.com/tires/brands/nitto-catalog?cat=all-terrain-tires

General Grabber AT2s real popular too



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I was pretty close to putting ridge grapplers on my truck, ended up with BFGs instead. In the end the BFGs won because of price and I've had good luck with them in the past. If I wasn't putting 18k miles/year on my truck I might have opted for the Nittos, but to spend $1500 on tires and have them be shot after 2 years would piss me off.

That's what I'm trying to avoid. I'd routinely get over 50k with BFG AT's on 1/2 ton vehicles, but they only went 32k on my last 3/4 Ram. I was happy with the Hankook Dynapro AT's that I put on it, but they don't make it in the size I need (or at least Discount doesn't offer it) for the new truck. Have some Cooper Discovery AT3 on some work trucks (1/2 ton), and they are holding up okay so far.

Factory size is 285/60 R20 and the offerings in that size are pretty limited. Don't want to have to buy different size wheels, even though that would give my a lot more options. Looking at size-up options too.

I just have no experience with the Nitto's and how they do, hence my request for input on them.

Thanks fellas.

I got 45k miles from my first set. On my second now but these are the second gen or whatever. I went back with them because the first set lasted longer than any tire I've had on a diesel. Single rear wheel ton dodge

Take a look at 275/65/20. They are a hair narrower but basically the same OD

^ I was going to say the same. That is a stock ford size for 3/4 and 1 tons, so most choices will be e rated.

Thanks fellas, I'll take a look at the offerings in those sizes too.

I have the same truck , same size tires and same junk firestones on my dodge. 22,000 miles on them and they are shot. I've had the BFG's on another truck and they don't last either. I tow a trailer and I'm looking at Cooper AT3's ,or the Michelin Defenders. I've never run either tire, but they seem to get a pretty good review

On my '07 ram 2500 Cummins, I ran three sets of 33"x12.50 Cooper STT's after the factory (forget what they were) tires wore out at 40k. I got between 50k and 60k out of all three sets of Coopers depending on how often I managed to rotate them. IMO, they are a great mud tire! Pretty quiet when new but like all mud tires, get pretty loud the more they wear.

I grew tired of mud tire noise on the highway and went with Toyo AT II's for the current set. I currently have about 25k on the Toyos and if it weren't for 1000ftlbs of torque to the rear tires, they would be showing very little wear. I rotate them when I see the rears wearing because the fronts never do.

I have no idea how fast the Coopers would wear with the additional torque because they were previous to the HP/Torque mods. Definitely been impressed with both tires so far, though for different purposes....

Anecdotally, I had a set of 33"x12.50 Nitto Mud grapplers on a 4000lb Jeep CJ7 that didn't last no time with a about a 60/40 mix of offroad and highway driving...Around 30k.


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I have had 2 sets of Nitto Exo Grapplers, 45,000 on the first set, still driving the second. This on a Ford diesel. Pulls an 18,000 lb fifth wheel. They are designed for more mileage than their pure "off road" tires.

I have been running a 35x11.50r20 ridge grappler on my 17 Ram 2500. So far they have been great in the snow and ice, not to loud and I think I will get close to 50k on them. Now I don’t tow much, if I did I would look at their Exo Grappler line.

I have used Nittos more than any other tire and really like them. I think the fastest wearing set made it over 40k with rotating every 5-8k.

I had a set of Trail Grapplers that I put ~40K on on my '11 F250 6.7L PSD. They probably had another ~10K worth of summer driving, but I like lots of tread for fall/winter up here where we get months of snow and ice.

I just put a set of Exo Grapplers on recently, but I don't have 500Mi on them yet. I can say that the little bit I've driven with them, I'm very impressed with their traction on packed down very slick snow/ice. The tire dude said that they balanced really easily and from in-town driving to 80MPH going down the interstate, there's nary a wiggle, exceptionally smooth.

I appreciate the input from everyone, especially those with direct info and experience with the Nitto's.

That's been my experience with the EXO too, but only on a 1/2-ton 4x4. Need to try them under more conditions, but am pretty happy with them so far with 15k miles.

Plan to be unimpressed with the bfg’s. These ko2’s aren’t much better than the Goodyear Wrangler SRA’s it came with.h

Interesting, I've had 1 set of BFG KO's and a set of KO II's and I was very happy with both. Both were on F-250's w/PDS's. The only complaint I've ever had about the BFG's is that they're rock-throwin' summbitches. Current set on the spare rims for my F-250 is down to ~1/3 tread left, maybe less. I ran them for hunting season and I was still able to motor through some steep and greasy stuff without much drama. They really started pushing through bends on gravel roads though. Not 90 degree corners, but bends you should be able to go through @ 40-50MPH I was having to back off below 40, they'd just lost lateral bite. I still don't quite "get it" because earlier that same day I climbed out of a river bottom to the top of a bluff through an icy-muddy-melty greasy trail without any real drama. I put it in 4-Low for more immediate throttle response both ways and just chugged right up. Don't get me wrong, it spun plenty but I never felt like I lost forward bite.

This is my second set of KO2s and fourth set of BFGs. I’ve been happy with every set thus far. For some reason it seems like you either have great luck with them or crap, maybe I’ve just been lucky.

I've probably have 4 sets of the all-terrain KO's, 1 set of BFG Mud terrains, and now this disaster. I'm not impressed at all with the tire. It lasts just fine. Have probably 60-65K miles on them and can easily get 10K more. It's the traction that sucks. The 2's are supposed to have been improved in all areas.

There is a lot more competition now days, for a lot less money.

My Dad has had great success with the original KO's, but they changed the rubber compound with the KO 2 and really shortened their life. Tzone is correct; traction sucks.

I made one attempt at liking the KO2's, two out of four tires would not balance, returned them for two more and they half-assed balanced there was one that continually caused a vibration/shimmy and it took a LOT of weight just to get them to that point. I wanted to like them, but a lesson was learned.

I REALLY hate to use Goodyears. But I've heard not one complaint about the GY Wrangler Duratrac's. Not one! That will be on the short list for fall.

I run the Nitto Ridge Grapplers on our Jeep and love them, even in the snow and one icy streets. I’ll probably put a set of Duratracs on my truck when the time comes. Have had good luck with them on trucks, not so much on the Jeep. Found the sidewalls to weak to run at the lower pressures and found them squirmy on the road.

Check out the tires in person. The sidewalls are really flexible and soft. Known to be puncture prone. And not very tough for stone drilling.

Traction, however, seems to be outstanding especially in snow and ice. If you don't have sharp rock and are careful with the sidewalls they seem like a decent tire. Here in the PNWet the volcanic rock is too sharp for them in my opinion.

Well my hatred for the GY’s is from rocks. I had 3 flats in one day on a job site. Incase you’re counting, that’s more tires than I had spares!!

I had 10-ply Duratracs on an F-150 and loved them. Put a set of 10-ply on my 1st F-250 and couldn't get them off quickly enough. They were WAY squirrley with 0 load, just the truck, towing nothing, with nothing of note in the bed.

I had 3 flats with Goodyear Wranglers near Starkey, OR. Holes in between the tread lugs. I dang near depleted my supply of plugs, needing several in each hole! Luckily the gas station in Ukiah had a megapack of plugs

Buddy has the Duratracs and had a stone puncture the tread near Enterprise, OR. He was on beautiful groomed gravel. His excuse is that the stone was shaped like an arrowhead. I say BS. His rig is light and he drives slow. It was a 10-ply rated Duratrac too.

Ran the same roads with Toyo Open Country tires and never got a flat. Have since been using Toyo M-55 & R/T, and now the Nitto EXO. The M-55 is still really popular out there with the ranchers, loggers, etc. just for the puncture resistance but so far I'm liking the EXO more.

I had that issue with a set of Flaken AT's on my 06 Tundra. That truck did NOT like those tires! lol. I brought them back the same day and had them switched out to some Yokohama Geolander's. Which is a great tire btw...

It’s funny how people can literally have exact opposite experiences. I haven’t heard a single good thing about Duratracs from anyone who’s put them on a full size truck. Jeep and SUV owners seem to like them, but the couple truck owners I’ve talked to echoed exactly what horse1 said about them being super squirrelly with no load on them.

Can’t say about Nittos but I got 35,000 miles on a set of Toyo Open Country AT II’s on my Ram 2500 and still had good tread. 3/4ton diesels are sure hard on most tires. I’ve had amazing luck with Toyos on the last 3-4 trucks I’ve owned, no complaints whatsoever.

I’ve been looking at the AT II Extreme for my F150 when the time comes. Is that what u r running?

Mine on my F150 aren’t the extremes I don’t think they make them in the 275/70/18 , that’s the size I have ran on multiple trucks, including my previous diesel.

What kind of mileage are you getting out of them? Good all round?

My F150 only has 14,500 miles on em and they look great.

I had a set of Nitto Mud Grapplers on my 2001 Cummins, 315/70r16 if memory serves me correctly. They wore like iron, at least for such an aggressive tire. They were mild mannered on the street, and were the bee's knees off road and in the snow. Nitto makes a fantastic tire, so I would say that you probably couldn't go wrong with either the Terra- or the Ridge-Grappler, depending upon which application would better suit your needs. If I got over 20k out of the Mud Grapplers, I can't imagine the Trail-Grappler not making it to 30k, and probably quite a bit further on the Terra's.

Nitto hit a home run with the ridge grappler. I look after a fleet of pickups and have bought pretty much every truck tire made. The ridge grappler is my current favorite. I roll 35s on my personal truck for hauling my bigfoot camper around.

A big +1 to horse1's comment. I had a set of duratracs on my 04 cummins for about a week - they were sloppy from the moment I pulled out of the tire shop, but they assured me that they would "break in". They did not, and were a nightmare when towing. It is the tire that made me hate goodyear.