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I gave my son my 4wd and I ended up buying a 2016 silverado 1500 2wd. Problem that I recently found out is our property road gets a little dicey when It rains. never noticed it before in my older 4wd, but this newer 2wd with the continental road "slicks" pulling my trailer with Ranger 800 on it, it a no go. So I need a good A/T tire so i can access my property. So if any of you guys travel down old dirt farm roads when it rains or even slight mud in a 2wd, what are you guys running? These "slicks" could get me stuck in wet clover.
I imagine this is why we saw so many Co-Op Grip Spurs and Buckshots on the back of trucks in the 70's and 80's, when fewer folks had 4wd. Just about any AT tire with some larger tread voids should clean out and grip better than a highway tire. I'd look at Cooper or Mastercraft.
Mud and sliding?

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What does a locker cost for that?
Originally Posted by JPro
I imagine this is why we saw so many Co-Op Grip Spurs and Buckshots on the back of trucks in the 70's and 80's, when fewer folks had 4wd. Just about any AT tire with some larger tread voids should clean out and grip better than a highway tire. I'd look at Cooper or Mastercraft.


Ah the old COOP GripSpur. Old guy who lets me fish used to drive a 1979 F150 4x4 Supercab longbox with those babies on all 4 corners. About 32” tall and looked like 4” wide but they’d sling the mud and it would go like hell when it was nasty out. Sorry just brought back some old memories from my childhood.


Ain't never seen a 2WD Chevy Silverado in my parts.......
I learned my lesson about buying a 2wd pick up


-Jake


take a peek at these.........both very highly rated.......

hell.......even BFG AT KO2's

https://www.discounttiredirect.com/buy-tires/goodyear-wrangler-ultraterrain-at

https://www.discounttiredirect.com/buy-tires/falken-wildpeak-a-t3w
Whatever you end up with for tires, get a set of chains.

And I hope you have a limited slip diff. If not, get one of those too.
Years ago, a friend's hunting truck was an old delivery van, 2wd. It had a limited slip rear end. That thing would go through mud where 4x4's (with no lockers) were spinning out. He amazed me with it more than once. I had a '78 Jeep Wagoneer with heavy mud tires. He'd leave me in the mud.
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Years ago, a friend's hunting truck was an old delivery van, 2wd. It had a limited slip rear end. That thing would go through mud where 4x4's (with no lockers) were spinning out. He amazed me with it more than once. I had a '78 Jeep Wagoneer with heavy mud tires. He'd leave me in the mud.

Yeah. My father was old school, refused to buy a 4wd. Drove a 2wd pickup with limited slip diff, carried a shovel, chains, a power puller type manual winch, and used a lot of common sense. He did fine with that setup.

I'm lazier, hate putting on chains, so have a 4wd. But have still needed chains on occasion, particularly when pulling an atv on a trailer! Only have one set for rear wheels, thinking about adding a set for the front wheels.
Originally Posted by tikkanut


Ain't never seen a 2WD Chevy Silverado in my parts.......



Yeah I know. But some years the hunting season is bone dry and others you would swear Louisiana was like Seattle and rain every other day.
Originally Posted by FatCity67
Mud and sliding?

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=All-Terrain+T%2FA+KO2


I would not get those for mud.


2wd ?

got mud ?

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Originally Posted by tikkanut



Funny thing about those. I was at the discount tire store last night getting tires for my wife's Honda Pilot. I was talking the tech about truck tires because I'm getting some next month for mine. I had both of these on my list. High on my list...like number 1 &2. He suggested passing on both of them. He said neither are real good quality, Ultraterrain doesn't have a mileage warranty at all, and they've been having some folks bringing back the Wildpeaks for various issues. Both are poorly rated on wet traction/wet stopping as well.

I had the Cooper AT3 on my list as well and he said that was one they recommend along with the Pathfinder AT, made for DT by Hankook Tire.
Originally Posted by tikkanut


2wd ?

got mud ?

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He said they sell a schit ton of the Ultraterrain's but said mostly because they "look cool".
I’m quickly becoming a Cooper fan. Had a terrible experience with BFG AT tossing a cap and ruining a fender and BFG says to GFY. Set of Toyo MTs on my last Superduty were horrible, rode and wore like they were square and looking done for at 20k. Been putting Cooper AT3s on stuff lately and getting good results.
My favorite AT tire has been the Firestone Destination AT. However, if I had lot's of mud to go through the only thing I would get would be a good mud tire. If you insist on AT's then like others have said get a set of chains.
It'd be no thing to put four AT tires on a 2wd truck and pick up two take-off rims for a pair of mud tires, only bolting those on the back for hunting season. Lot's of spare GM wheels out there.
Before you buy chains for the front of a 4x4, check your manual. Some of them don't have enough clearance for heavy chains and some can't use chains at all as they can tear up some very expensive stuff. Some will only allow you to run S chains which are light weight, no V bars, and not nearly as strong as the ones in the pic above.

I run narrower tires than stock. Stock on my 3/4 ton Dodge are 265-70-17. I'm running 245-75-17. They're the same height and weight rating but an inch or so narrower. That gives me lots of room for heavier chains on the front.
That’s the way to do it. Chains are a pain but no tire comes close in performance.
I went narrow for winter tires, 235/75-16, when the originals are 265/70’s I believe. Room for chains on the front if needed.
Originally Posted by tzone
Originally Posted by FatCity67
Mud and sliding?

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=All-Terrain+T%2FA+KO2


I would not get those for mud.


A better tire is not made based on the OP's requirements.

But...

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There are plenty of better tires for mud than BFG All Terrains KO2’s.

I had them on my last two rigs and won’t anymore. They don’t clean out at all for mud. Ok in snow, crap in rain, good in sand.

I’ll BFG Amur Terrain over the KO’s any day for mud/sand.


try these down there in the swamps..........

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yep......^^^^^^^^^^^^

88 Toyota...........
Should work perfect
I own a 2WD truck and when I started taking the family into the woods to camp & hunt, I got some load-rated mud grips for the rear axle. The truck has an electronic limited slip that is not quite as good as mechanical, but better than no limited slip diff.

Mug grips + electronic limited slip diff + common sense on my part never left me stranded. Trade off was more road noise and poorer wet pavement performance.

Eventually replaced those with AT tires. Much better on dry & wet pavement, but not nearly as good as the mud grips in the sloppy stuff. Got into a few situations where the mud grips would have managed, but my ATs did not. Instead of pushing it, I turned around and said, "Nope, not going to make it happen this time." Maybe 4WD+AT tires could have made it.

One other thing: load rated D and E tires impact MPG, but are worth it to me to reduce busted tires when out in the woods & slop. I got D rated but would go E next time. Just so many more E load rated tires out there.
What about ffalken wildpeak at3w? They appear to have a decent tread pattern and according to other sites, are not that noisy. But WTH do i know, I'm the one asking questions. grin


Falkin WP 3's........highly rated tire on Tacoma World.......

Imported from Thailand IIRC......?
Originally Posted by tikkanut


Falkin WP 3's........highly rated tire on Tacoma World.......

Imported from Thailand IIRC......?


I'm still trying to figure out why the Discount Tire tech did not recommend these. On paper they seem great and have not actually heard one complaint from someone that has them.
Toyo Open Country AT2's

Ride good, quiet, good traction.

Mike
Originally Posted by tzone
Originally Posted by tikkanut


Falkin WP 3's........highly rated tire on Tacoma World.......

Imported from Thailand IIRC......?


I'm still trying to figure out why the Discount Tire tech did not recommend these. On paper they seem great and have not actually heard one complaint from someone that has them.



prob going with the WP3's for the wife's '05 Tacoma this fall.......

265-75x16 SL....currently has KO2 E rated on it now......prob 40K on 'em
For old farm roads and some mud skip past A/T tires and go to basic mud and snow tires like the Goodyear DuraTrac. If you don't want to run them year round pick up a couple extra wheels. AND GET CHAINS.
Originally Posted by tikkanut
Originally Posted by tzone
Originally Posted by tikkanut


Falkin WP 3's........highly rated tire on Tacoma World.......

Imported from Thailand IIRC......?


I'm still trying to figure out why the Discount Tire tech did not recommend these. On paper they seem great and have not actually heard one complaint from someone that has them.



prob going with the WP3's for the wife's '05 Tacoma this fall.......

265-75x16 SL....currently has KO2 E rated on it now......prob 40K on 'em


Have you ever used them on a full sized truck? I know the newer Taco's big but not quite the same.
Originally Posted by ready_on_the_right
Toyo Open Country AT2's

Ride good, quiet, good traction.

Mike



And Made in the USA!
Originally Posted by tzone
Originally Posted by tikkanut
Originally Posted by tzone
Originally Posted by tikkanut


Falkin WP 3's........highly rated tire on Tacoma World.......

Imported from Thailand IIRC......?


I'm still trying to figure out why the Discount Tire tech did not recommend these. On paper they seem great and have not actually heard one complaint from someone that has them.



prob going with the WP3's for the wife's '05 Tacoma this fall.......

265-75x16 SL....currently has KO2 E rated on it now......prob 40K on 'em


Have you ever used them on a full sized truck? I know the newer Taco's big but not quite the same.




SIL in AZ has 'em on a 3/4 Dodge w/Cummins.....

seem to be doing OK.......
Good to hear
I just put a set of Falkens on my Tacoma TRD, 4X4

Haven't had a chance to try them out yet, but they are quiet on the road, and drive nice.

My fishing bud has two sets, one on his Jeep Wrangler, and the other on his 4X4 truck.

He likes them so well, that I bought them on his advice.

Virgil B.
Any feedback on the Falkens for running in the snow?

I've got about 1/2 mile of steep driveway. I gain 300 feet of elevation in that 1/2 mile.

When it snows, it's a slick mess!

Hope these tires have good enough tread to climb in 1/2 to 1 foot of snow.

Thanks for any feedback!

Virgil B.


I always suggest DTD......great pricing........free shipping..........

Black Friday sales is my time to buy........big promo discounts

Veteran's Day too will be a good time

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