Anyone use 160 grain partitions in their 270 on elk?
No, I use 150's and have no need for the 160's. I wouldn't trade into the 160's from the 150's for any reason. I'm going to use 150AB's this year in fact.
Yes. they work. I've always thought they looked cool too, but do they offer any real advantage over the 150's ? Not likely.
Anyone use 160 grain partitions in their 270 on elk?
Yes. Used them for the first time on two elk last year. Will be using them again this year.
I have used the 30 cal 200g NPt on 2 moose and 2 elk in the past. I had an acquaintance who has used the 160's in his 270 Wby and 200g NPt's in his 300 Wby and he said they performed quite similar. I've observed 5-6 elk killed with the 7mm 175g NPt in the past.
Both bulls I killed last year were ~50 yds in heavy timber, and both times all I had were shoulder shots (prefer not to do that, but....), and in both cases the bullets went through the heaviest part of both shoulder bones/ upper leg bone and exited.
In other words the results I've seen between the three NPt "heavies" in those calibers have been virtually identical.
IMR7977 is working very well in my 270 with the 160. Interestingly, IMR7977 wasn't worth a hoot with the 150 NPt when I tried it in two different 270's.
I’d use em. If they shoot, why not. They’re probably awesome. Shoot I might try them in my 760 270 Win Carbine.
Will never use them on elk, but they’ve sure knocked the snot out of a few whitetails for my son and me, loaded over W780.
Will never use them on elk, but they’ve sure knocked the snot out of a few whitetails for my son and me, loaded over W780.
Why on deer and not elk?
A friend used them on Moose. One shot
They are perfect for elk , as they penetrate exceptionally well. 160 part. doesn't seem to be destructive to meat either if you stay away from big bone, but they will hold together if you need to break bones. I would use them on anything on this continent.
What velocity do they run at? What kind of trajectory?
Will never use them on elk, but they’ve sure knocked the snot out of a few whitetails for my son and me, loaded over W780.
Why on deer and not elk?
I said I will never use them on elk, not that I wouldn’t. Elk aren’t in the cards for me that’s all. They’d be right in there with other top choices if it ever came to that. Same for the 150s. Not sure which I have more of at this point, courtesy of SPS.
I think a 160 grain would be a good deal.
I got some loaded up for my 270 ,hope my wife gets a go with them this year.
The 160 gr Partitions should be fine elk bullets. I use and have killed several with 150 gr Partitions; none has stopped one yet. No reason the 160 wouldn’t be more of a good thing. I load the 150s to 3025 fps with RE26; I expect 2900 is realistic with the 160.
I had a box of old NPT 160 grain .277" with the lathe turned jackets. Used most trying to find a load in my 270 Weatherby mag. So last weekend at the gs I found a part box( yellow and white) 41 count of 160 gr .277". I asked the fellow behind the table what he wanted for them "he said $5 "so I got out my cash and "he said don't you want the other box?" I said they were 150's (newer style) but how much? " he said $5 (unopened box) so I bought both $10. Was gonna use some old 150 rem rn corelolkts in the 7600 now maybe I'll just use the 160's. They look like dead animals waiting to happen. Mb
Sighted in at 100 meters 2" high drop at 250 yards according to my phone ap is -2.9", at 300 yards it's -7.7" at 350 it's -14.4" and at 400 yards -23.1"
If I sighted in 2 1/2" high at 100 meters the drop would be -21.1" at 400 yards
This rifle has an after market synthetic stock (forgot manufacturer), after market 24.5" ss barrel .664" diameter barrel at muzzle. It weighs 7.9 lb with sling and FX-3 6x scope
270 Win 700 BDL 160 Partition 9 ½ primers 53.5 grains RE 19, 3 shot at 100 meters 0.44 MOA
here's a link for dimensions on a bull elk ~ it looks like on a bull the back to the bottom of the chest is ~ 30" (cows?)
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/4314311/Elk_Dimensions
I said I will never use them on elk, not that I wouldn’t. Elk aren’t in the cards for me that’s all. They’d be right in there with other top choices if it ever came to that. Same for the 150s. Not sure which I have more of at this point, courtesy of SPS.
I’m embarrassed to reveal how many 270 cal 150g NPt seconds I have hoarded.
I’m trying wean myself off SPS………
My 160’s consistently shot with less drop than the ballistic calculators predicted. I even went back and shot again because I was bit skeptical of the first results. I entered all the relevant data including temp and altitude.
In the end, the 160g isn’t very far behind the 150g at 400 yds. Hardly enough to even adjust for, at least out to 400 yds.
Bugger
I am curious as to why you sight in 100 meters and then consider yardage distance for drop?
Why would you not zero at 200 yards?
Thanks
Bugger
I am curious as to why you sight in 100 meters and then consider yardage distance for drop?
Why would you not zero at 200 yards?
Thanks
My bench is set up at 100 meters, by accident. I stepped it off as 100 paces when I planted a tree for shade 9 years ago. Later I bought a range finder and discovered my error. As it turns out my ap says it will be .2" high at 200 yards - or as you say sighted in at 200 yards. My ap is in yards not meters. I also have it set for 10 mph wind at 90 degrees. I suspect that depending on bullet rotation and wind direction there might be a some variation in elevation POI. But so far, in the field, my ap has been close - I find it quite valuable actually.
I have a way to set up a range 500+ meters at my place, but that would be across a creek and so far I've not built a bridge. And I'd have to cross a planted field. Next year it will be CRP, so maybe a bridge is in the future. Right now, I have to go out to the road to cross the creek. Besides I don't want to shoot at game animals that far - coyotes, skunks, prairie dogs, varmints of all kinds yes, but not game animals.
I have 130's, 140's, 150's & 160's in 270 partitions and I have some ABLR's (forgot the weight) some 130 CL's, some 140 grain TSX and some 130 Interlocks. I plan on taking my 300 H&H with 200 grain Partitions as primary, but taking the 270 as a back up. The pre-64 300 H&H is a little over a lb heavier than the 270. With my steel knees, arthritis, bursitis and depending on terrain, I may have the 300 as back up and the 270 as primary. Also the 270 is more weather proof, who knows what the weather will be day to day.
I was thinking the 160's would be best for the 270 and elk thus the original question.
my favorite two partitions are the 160 SMP in 270, and the 220 SMP in 30 caliber.
I had a box of old NPT 160 grain .277" with the lathe turned jackets. Used most trying to find a load in my 270 Weatherby mag. So last weekend at the gs I found a part box( yellow and white) 41 count of 160 gr .277". I asked the fellow behind the table what he wanted for them "he said $5 "so I got out my cash and "he said don't you want the other box?" I said they were 150's (newer style) but how much? " he said $5 (unopened box) so I bought both $10. Was gonna use some old 150 rem rn corelolkts in the 7600 now maybe I'll just use the 160's. They look like dead animals waiting to happen. Mb
I have a few bags of the 160’s myself. Might try them from my 760. Quick load said 26 should get them over 2800 pretty easily. Should be a helluva deer getter up close too.
If your 270 groups the 160 similar to the other choices and you are not shooting over 500 yards I can’t imagine where a different weight bullet would matter..
But I can imagine where a lighter bullet might.
I have had good results using a ballistic reticle scope versus a regular cross hair.
Leupolds ain’t the best candidate for twisting turrets IMO.
Beretzs, what does quick load say for a start and max with 26? Mb
I’ll check when I get home Bob. I believe the upper load was around 57-58 though which falls right in line with the 150 grain PTs as well. It would be worth a shot. Could be a fairly great load I’d think.
I've used the 150 partitions for over 40 yrs on elk as have my two sons. They have performed perfectly on around 20+ dead elk between all of us. I wouldnt think the 160 gr partitions would be much different. I stuck with the 150 because of the accuracy, heavier weight than the 130, and faster velocity than the 160---kinda makes it a best of 3 worlds.
My load has been 53 grn of IMR 4831, Rem 9 1/2 primer, oal=3.330
I have used the 160’s on plains game (zebra, wildebeest, oryx, and kudu) which are pretty close to elk in size etc. Nothing required a second shot and nothing went more than 30-40 yards or so. I believe they produce a more obvious impact than spitzer shapes. One of my favorite bullets. I would use them rather than the lighter partitions.
Am considering a grizzly hunt and will be using them if I go.
Oh, forgot. With R26 you should get 2800+ in a 22” barrel.
I have used the 160’s on plains game (zebra, wildebeest, oryx, and kudu) which are pretty close to elk in size etc. Nothing required a second shot and nothing went more than 30-40 yards or so. I believe they produce a more obvious impact than spitzer shapes. One of my favorite bullets. I would use them rather than the lighter partitions.
Am considering a grizzly hunt and will be using them if I go.
That's big stuff knowing you're not a huge Partition fan!
I am going to give them a shot from my old pump.. I don't need gnat's butt accuracy since its got a peep on it and likely will never take a shot over a 100 yards in the places it'll hunt.
My Model 70 loves them. I got right at 2800 and 3/4” groups with IMR4831 with them. I have 3 boxes left and will use them if I ever go after elk.
I got a box of the 160's on a deal, loaded the Nosler Book's most accurate load. Accuracy in my Rem Mountain rifle is 1/2". I shot one buck only with the load, lung shot, he took off running and hit a large pine tree dead center with his rack, grave yard dead right there.
The buck was running dead on his feet.
Wife killed one small bull with old style lathe turned 160 grain in a 270. Range was mere yards. Broadside angling away. Not much reaction needed to be cornered and required a second shot.