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Posted By: coyote268 140 grain Barnes 7 mag - 06/30/18
Anybody ever use this for Elk? Thinking of getting some for my Daughters 7 mag if she gets drawn.
Posted By: Reba Re: 140 grain Barnes 7 mag - 06/30/18
You can never go wrong using a Barnes.

In a 7 Mag I might go to a 160 Barnes for elk.

If your daughter is more comfortable with a 140 by all means use it for her elk........................................
Posted By: Lampson Re: 140 grain Barnes 7 mag - 06/30/18
If the rifle shoots that bullet well, and your daughter is comfortable with the setup, go for it! I have zero hesitation using a 140 gr TSX or TTSX out of a 7 mag. I have two 7 Rem Mags that I feed with Barnes bullets. I have taken bulls with both the 140 gr TSX and 150 gr TTSX. I'm not wed to just using Barnes, they are just very accurate bullets in those particular rifles. Tried 160 gr TSX bullets at the range but accuracy wasn't as good.
Posted By: coyote268 Re: 140 grain Barnes 7 mag - 06/30/18
She had said that if she got drawn she would like to use her Tikka compact 7-08 as it fits her better. This meant old Dad had better get to work, so, bought a Tikka compact stock off of here and installed a couple of Edwards recoil reducers and then sent it off to John Boy to have it painted. Bedded it in and now put a Leupold 3i on it. Typical Tikka, shoots the TSX bt sub moa. With what you guys have said I think the 140's will work fine.
Posted By: Hesp Re: 140 grain Barnes 7 mag - 06/30/18
For years me & mine have been using the Barnes original 120 X & now the 120 TSX in 260 Rem & 6.5x55. They have always given complete penetration even thru heavy bone.. We have never recovered one of the bullets.. I do have a friend who uses the 140gr Barnes TSX in his 7-08 with no problem also getting complete penetration. Another friend uses a 308 & the Barnes 130grTSX with complete satisfaction. . I would respectably recommend the 260Rem,6,5x55 or 7-08 over the 7mag for your daughter. You do not need a heavy recoiling mag to successfully harvest elk. What needs to be concentrated on is trigger squeeze & bullet placement. We have taken enough elk over the years to have lost count. What I recommend is base on years of in the field experience .
Posted By: coyote268 Re: 140 grain Barnes 7 mag - 06/30/18
Hi Hesp, you obviously know what you are talking about with your experience. I have only harvested half a dozen Elk and those with a 7 mag so I am sort of hung up on it. What you are saying makes a lot of sense and I thank you for your post. One of the species hunts she put in for were Tule Elk which are a little bit bigger than a good sized Mulie. Here she said she would use her 7-08. Perhaps I'm trying to force feed her on the mag. The main thing now is get drawn for the hunt. The final say on what rifle and load she will use is up to her as she is as set in her ways as I am. Again, thank you all you folks for your comments
Posted By: Lampson Re: 140 grain Barnes 7 mag - 06/30/18
Should have mentioned the 7-08 from the begging, way better choice over a 7 mag in this situation. Let her use the Tikka, and worry about other thigs....
Posted By: Slider1 Re: 140 grain Barnes 7 mag - 06/30/18
Last year I shot 6 Hartmann's Mountain Zebra(much tougher than an Elk) and two Gemsbok with a 7mm Rem Mag using the 140 TTSX. The ranges were from 50 yds to 327 yds. One shot killed each one dead. I tried hand-loading the 7mm 150 Barn's TTSX but the 140's were a little more accurate.
Posted By: Alex38 Re: 140 grain Barnes 7 mag - 06/30/18
I’d also recommend the 7-08 for your daughter. But, if you’re going to use the 7RM, you’d be hard pressed to find a better bullet than the 140TTSX. I also really like the 160 Accubond and 175 Partition out of my 7 Mags.
Posted By: Capt_Craig Re: 140 grain Barnes 7 mag - 06/30/18
The 120 TTSX will do the job on elk from a 7mm-08 as will the 120 NBT. If your daugter wants to use her Tikka, you could always try them. They seem to shoot well in many Tikkas and I believe Pharmseller has a 120 gr load for his Tikkas.
Posted By: WAM Re: 140 grain Barnes 7 mag - 06/30/18
While I think the 140 is entirely adequate for deer or elk, I prefer the 150 gr TTSX at 7mm Magnum velocity. I’ve has several clean kills on elk with 150 gr TTSX out of a 7mm Weatherby. My buddy has had the same results with his 7mm Remington Magnum with the same bullet. Happy Trails
Posted By: keith Re: 140 grain Barnes 7 mag - 06/30/18
I killed two bulls with 140g old style ballistic tips, 100-175 yard shots. I know the Barnes are a sure fire winner:

65-66g of IMR 4350, Rem case, Rem 9 1/2, bullet jumping .050 off the lands, expect 3200-3250 fps depending on the barrel and small groups with the tipped tripple shocks.

160g Partitions with 61g of IMR 4350 is also a hammer of Thor.

Our parties over the years also killed a lot of bulls with the 154g Hornady sp with 73g of R#25 and win mag primer at 3200 fps, small groups with small Standard deviation.
Posted By: Hesp Re: 140 grain Barnes 7 mag - 07/01/18
Originally Posted by Capt_Craig
The 120 TTSX will do the job on elk from a 7mm-08 as will the 120 NBT. If your daugter wants to use her Tikka, you could always try them. They seem to shoot well in many Tikkas and I believe Pharmseller has a 120 gr load for his Tikkas.

I agree with the Captain. As an example the bull I shot in 2016 was about 165 yds steep up hill & to my left. The 6.5 120gr TSX entered thru the lower back edge of the left shoulder blade. It penetrated & exited out the right side armpit. It then struck the right front leg bone just above the knee. That bone is about 3" in diam. . The 120gr TSX completely shattered & shot off that leg & on into the dirt. Think about that...I realize other bullet types & weights will take elk. I have taken many elk with other bullets & recovered many of them. Never recovered a TSX..It has been my experience ( will be 74 in 9 days ) the homogeneous copper bullet like the Barnes adds a considerable amount of dependable penetration. Penetration depends on momentum which relies on retained bullet weight. I have Barnes 6.5 120gr TSX bullets recovered from the dirt bank behind my 100yd target that still weigh 120grs. That's retained weight.
I have put hunters with heavy magnum rifle's on elk at ranges from 80 to 150yds. I have seen them hit the elk multiple times ( 5 to 6 shots ) before putting them down & then still require a finishing shot. Poor bullet placement. No matter what bullet or rifle cartridge is used " A TOUGH DEEP PENETRATING BULLET PROPERLY PLACED " is essential. Practice!!!.. Mental preparation also necessary so that the brain is in control of the trigger finger & no carried away excited emotion. I give you this info because I want your daughter to be "ABSOLUTELY " successful.
Posted By: Windfall Re: 140 grain Barnes 7 mag - 07/01/18
In my opinion, if Barnes thought that the 140 TSX was a great bullet, they wouldn't have come out with the 140 TTSX upgrade. My only experience with the 140 TSX was on whitetail deer with my 7mm-08 and I sure didn't see the kind of expansion that I wanted to put the deer down quickly. One ran about a hundred yards and there was no blood on the snow for the first 20 yards. That one had a quarter size perfectly round hole through both lungs and I've never seen intact lungs like that from an Interlock, Partition or a Core-Lokt. A very nice mega buck took one of those TSX's high behind the shoulder, dropped five drops of blood and ran away and hid and I never found that one in two days of looking. Guys tell me that the TTSX is a faster expanding bullet and I think that it needs to be. My 7 mag elk were shot with 160 grain Partitions and 175 grain Trophy Bonded Bear Claw and I liked the TBBC the best.
Posted By: Pharmseller Re: 140 grain Barnes 7 mag - 07/01/18
Lots of choices for the Mighty-08 and elk. The following data is safe in my rifles, start low and work up. They’re all stainless Tikkas, too.

My current load is 150 ELDX and 46.2 grains of Big Game with a Winchester Large Rifle Magnum primer at 2.183” or 2.156” measured from the ogive.

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My brother’s rifle shoots the 2.156” OAL

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It does this to a 5x6 bull at 404 yards:

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I don’t have any elk experience with the 120s, but the 140 Accubond or 140 Partition kill elk and I mean right now.
47.5 grains Big Game, WLRM, 2.805” for either bullet, base to tip.

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140 NAB at 225 yards, tight behind the shoulder:

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Posted By: Pharmseller Re: 140 grain Barnes 7 mag - 07/01/18
140 Partition, 346 yards

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Posted By: coyote268 Re: 140 grain Barnes 7 mag - 07/01/18
The reason I brought up Barnes is here in CA. , if you get drawn you have to use a non lead bullet and next year all hunting has to use non lead. I did manage to scrounge up ten boxes of Federal Premium 140 grain triple shock 7-08's. They are hollow point so I'm not to sure using them on Elk sized animals but they are a go for Deer and Pigs.
Posted By: Pharmseller Re: 140 grain Barnes 7 mag - 07/01/18
Federal blue box 140s kill elk every year.




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Posted By: lotech Re: 140 grain Barnes 7 mag - 07/01/18
I've been working with the 140 TTSX BT in two rifles, one chambered for the 7mm Remington Magnum and the other in 7x61 Sharpe & Hart. Preliminary results show excellent accuracy with H4831 powder.
Posted By: Hesp Re: 140 grain Barnes 7 mag - 07/02/18
Originally Posted by coyote268
The reason I brought up Barnes is here in CA. , if you get drawn you have to use a non lead bullet and next year all hunting has to use non lead. I did manage to scrounge up ten boxes of Federal Premium 140 grain triple shock 7-08's. They are hollow point so I'm not to sure using them on Elk sized animals but they are a go for Deer and Pigs.

The hollow point is the way these bullets are designed to help open the nose... . They will not explode like lead core bullets. You have to completely forget every thing you know about lead core bullets when using any of the homogeneous copper bullets.. Think of the Barnes , Hornady & other brand copper bullets as solids with an expanding nose. The nose opens. The solid core penetrates.& drives the expanded nose. Super penetration.. Heavy muscle & bone, they punch thru. Use them on elk with confidence.
Posted By: Hesp Re: 140 grain Barnes 7 mag - 07/02/18
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Posted By: Hesp Re: 140 grain Barnes 7 mag - 07/03/18
Sorry about the above post. For some reason the picture did not come out.
Posted By: Dre Re: 140 grain Barnes 7 mag - 07/04/18
I have had very good luck with ttsx out of my 130gr in 270 and 168gr in 06.
as its been brought up, lighter and faster works better with these.
I'll have to get some pics up for the nay sayers.
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I've shot a lot of critters, up to moose size, with the 140gr TSX and TTSX from 7Mag class rifles. It works superbly within its velocity window.
Posted By: Beaver10 Re: 140 grain Barnes 7 mag - 07/04/18
Barnes bullets have produced solid kills for me in both a 30-378 and 300 Roy. Nice heart shots Dre 👍🏻😎
The MRX, TTSX and LRX have all worked very well for us, antelope to elk. Can't think of a reason to forgo the tip, which helps ensure expansion and improves B.C. for an untipped TSX.

We have yet to recover a tipped Barnes mono bullet and no animal has gone more than a few yards, with many (half or so) going straight down.

Daughter uses 120g TTSX in her .308 Win. A 140 is one of my 7mm RM loads.
No worries at all.
Posted By: keith Re: 140 grain Barnes 7 mag - 07/21/18
To clarify with the 140g tipped tripple shock:

This load shoots 3/8" or less in a Rem 700 in a laminate stock, bedded and freefloated

140g tipped tripple shock-seat .050 off the lands***very important
Rem brass
9 1/2** very important
65.0g
65.5
66.0g of IMR 4350
3200fps

You are done with your load development if you don't change anything above. Cool your barrel inbetween loads.

Barnes tripple shocks copper foul a barrel like nosler, sierra, and hornady bullets. I usually clean my rifle with good copper solvent every 30 or so rounds.
Posted By: Hesp Re: 140 grain Barnes 7 mag - 07/24/18
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This is a picture of a young lady who borrowed my wife's 6.5x308 ( aka 260 Rem today ) for her elk hunt. Her rifle was down for repair. The load was with the Barnes 6.5 120gr old style "X" bullet. One shot kill. This gal was hunting by Her self on public land. No help or guide. Let your daughter see this. A Colorado warden was in the area & herd the shot. Came to the kill & took the picture..I feel sure your daughter could easily take her elk with the 7-08 & the 120gr Barnes TSX..
Posted By: bludog Re: 140 grain Barnes 7 mag - 07/25/18
My wife has shot two elk with Barnes bullets out of her 7-08ai. A decent 5x5 with a 140 TSX at about 315 yds and a very nice 7x8 bull at 400 yds with a 120 TTSX. Both worked very well. But I felt like the TTSX was at the end of it's performance window at that distance with a MV around 3100-ish fps.
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