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Posted By: Hawk_Driver .284 140 TTSX for elk? - 07/22/19
Any one used one on elk? Got a rifle that runs them just over 3200 and shoots them really good. Cant imagine that they wouldnt work, just wondering what the consensus is.

Got another cow tag this year, thought I may try it.
Go for it. A 7mm 140g will get the job done quite a ways out there. I us one in my 7mm RM at 3214fps and had one exit on a broadside at 400 yards. North Fork HP instead of Barnes TTSX but the TTSX are even harder to stop.

At 600 yards and 7000 feet, your TTSX load should maintain over 1500fpe and 2200fps.

FWIW, IMR 7828SSC gives me 3358fps with the 140g TTSX with my 7mm RM. I use TTSX and LRX in several of my rifles and will likely do so in the 7mm RM when I run out of North Fork.

It’s my go-to in my 284 Win. 2.5 MOA at 400 yds consistently. 3150 fps. ~ 120 yds here; fx’d spine at neck- shoulder area and exited. The only one of these that was stopped was by a 275 lb mule deer at 100 yds. and went from brisket to scrotum — ~ 4.5 feet.
I was surprised this one wasn’t stopped. No matter.

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Wonder what one could get out of a 7-08 with the 140 TTSX. Thanks Cheers NC
Posted By: lotech Re: .284 140 TTSX for elk? - 07/22/19
For elk, I've used the plain 130 TSX BT in a Cooper .270 and also the plain 150 TSX BT in a 7x61 Sharpe & Hart NULA. Bullets worked great and at ranges from 125 yards to about 375. I'm pretty sure the tipped versions of these bullets would work just as well.
Originally Posted by northcountry

Wonder what one could get out of a 7-08 with the 140 TTSX. Thanks Cheers NC


I would think ~ 2900-3000 fps depending..My 284 has a 23” tube, a Wyatt box allowing a ~ 2.95” OAL, and really seems to like R17.
Posted By: Deans Re: .284 140 TTSX for elk? - 07/23/19
Shot my only elk (cow) with a 140 TTSX at 2860 with my 7-08. DRT.
Posted By: mathman Re: .284 140 TTSX for elk? - 07/23/19
Originally Posted by George_De_Vries_3rd

It’s my go-to in my 284 Win. 2.5 MOA at 400 yds consistently. 3150 fps. ~ 120 yds here; fx’d spine at neck- shoulder area and exited. The only one of these that was stopped was by a 275 lb mule deer at 100 yds. and went from brisket to scrotum — ~ 4.5 feet.
I was surprised this one wasn’t stopped. No matter.


That's about a 10" group. I don't think that's what you meant, right?
Posted By: Reloder28 Re: .284 140 TTSX for elk? - 07/23/19
Shot my one & only Elk cow with a 7 Wby pushing a 140 TTSX @ 3400 fps. She trotted about 35 yards & tipped over cold stone dead. The bullet entered the chest & traversed the length of the body & exited the rear ham.
Posted By: CaveTrout Re: .284 140 TTSX for elk? - 07/23/19
Yes, in a superbly accurate .280AI WBY MK V Ultralite (rechambered from factory .280 R.E.M.). The .284 140gr TTSX left that skinny 24" factory barrel at 3220 fps and grouped way sub min. out to 800 yes. That being said, I personally would limit it to 500 or so, as it is slowing down pretty quickly out past that (BC sucks). The on game performance on elk was more than adequate though.
Posted By: Dogshooter Re: .284 140 TTSX for elk? - 07/23/19
I shot a bull a couple years back with a 140 TTSX out of an 18” barreled 7/08.... muzzle velocity was about 2600 gps, and shot was 60ish yards.

Bullet broke both scapulas and exited.... bull went 20-30 yards blowing chunks of lungs out his nose. I was pretty impressed....
Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by George_De_Vries_3rd

It’s my go-to in my 284 Win. 2.5 MOA at 400 yds consistently. 3150 fps. ~ 120 yds here; fx’d spine at neck- shoulder area and exited. The only one of these that was stopped was by a 275 lb mule deer at 100 yds. and went from brisket to scrotum — ~ 4.5 feet.
I was surprised this one wasn’t stopped. No matter.


That's about a 10" group. I don't think that's what you meant, right?


I figured that was pretty good after my initial 15” groups.....😜

Thanks mathman; I meant to “say” 2.5” at 400 yds.
Posted By: horse1 Re: .284 140 TTSX for elk? - 07/23/19
I've taken elk and watched several others taken w/140TSX from a 270Win as well as a couple 140TTSX/280AI. They've both worked quite well, indistinguishable from each-other IME. Can't imagine how a 140TTSX via 280Rem would be much different.
Posted By: DubThomas Re: .284 140 TTSX for elk? - 07/23/19
I wouldn't hesitate to use it on elk. I use it in my 7 RSAUM for muleys and it kills like lightning.
Posted By: Reloder28 Re: .284 140 TTSX for elk? - 07/24/19
Originally Posted by George_De_Vries_3rd
Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by George_De_Vries_3rd

It’s my go-to in my 284 Win. 2.5 MOA at 400 yds consistently. 3150 fps. ~ 120 yds here; fx’d spine at neck- shoulder area and exited. The only one of these that was stopped was by a 275 lb mule deer at 100 yds. and went from brisket to scrotum — ~ 4.5 feet.
I was surprised this one wasn’t stopped. No matter.


That's about a 10" group. I don't think that's what you meant, right?


I figured that was pretty good after my initial 15” groups.....😜

Thanks mathman; I meant to “say” 2.5” at 400 yds.



Alright, well I’m glad we got that straightened out.
Posted By: donsm70 Re: .284 140 TTSX for elk? - 07/24/19
I have found that 140 gr TTSX are very easy to load in 7mm rifles and would not hesitate to use them on elk. I did, however, just pick up a Semi-custom Rem 700 with Kampfeld upgrades that shoots 150 gr Nosler Partitions quite well. It will be a toss up for 2020 Wyoming elk season.
donsm70
Originally Posted by Deans
Shot my only elk (cow) with a 140 TTSX at 2860 with my 7-08. DRT.


Deans what length barrel? Thanks for your time. Cheers NC
Posted By: Poconojack Re: .284 140 TTSX for elk? - 07/27/19

Why not?
Posted By: Yoder409 Re: .284 140 TTSX for elk? - 07/27/19
Originally Posted by Poconojack

Why not?


+1

Why not ??

They're heck for sturdy and QUITE acceptably accurate at insane velocities in my STW. can't see an elk (or much else) surviving one, properly placed.
Posted By: keith Re: .284 140 TTSX for elk? - 07/27/19
When the 140g Nosler ballistic tips first came out, I shot two bull elk with them in a browning a bolt 7 mag with a MV of 3200 fps, they flopped.

Tipped tripple shocks will work well, I am sure.
Posted By: lastround Re: .284 140 TTSX for elk? - 08/03/19
Originally Posted by northcountry

Wonder what one could get out of a 7-08 with the 140 TTSX. Thanks Cheers NC



High 2800’s to low 2900’s. They will work, but the 120’s at 3100+ will work too.
The Barnes 140gn worked very well culling brumbies out of my 275 Rigby loaded to 2900fps.
I would certainly use it on elk.
Posted By: Hawk_Driver Re: .284 140 TTSX for elk? - 08/05/19
Sounds like the 7 WSM is going elk hunting. Thanks guys.
Posted By: Hesp Re: .284 140 TTSX for elk? - 08/11/19
Over the years I have taken elk with cals' from 6.5 to .338. The Barnes mono has been the king of elk bullets for me. 120gr in 6.5, 130 in 270 & 140 in 7mm. Never have failed me..They will almost every time give complete penetration thru mature elk even at acute angles thru heavy bone & muscle. They only thing I would stress is be very aware of what is on the other side of the elk you shoot. It is very easy to shoot two elk with one shot. The 140 TSX in 7mm will handle game much heavier than elk. The importance of a squeeze trigger & proper bullet placement id paramount. Many of the elk I have taken have been under 100yds thru little openings. I can't stress enough being able to make accurate off hand shots. Practice, practice practice.
Posted By: Azar Re: .284 140 TTSX for elk? - 08/12/19
While not the 140g TTSX, I've used the 150g TTSX out of a 7mm RM on a few elk and it's been excellent. At times I've wished I would have started with the 140g instead of the 150g since the extra speed wouldn't hurt (and possibly help) with the solid copper bullet. However, I have a good load and enough loaded up I see no reason to switch now.

I'd have absolutely zero qualms about a 140g TTSX out of a 7 WSM on elk.
Posted By: WAM Re: .284 140 TTSX for elk? - 08/17/19
I have killed several elk with 150 gr TTSX with 7mm Weatherby so I’m sure the 140 will work just fine. I load the 140 TTSX for my 7x57 but have yet to shoot a critter with it. Happy Trails
Posted By: Dre Re: .284 140 TTSX for elk? - 08/17/19
TTSX-they are bees knees
my main elk gun , 30-06 shoots 168s. my back up 270, 130s. I'd have no problem to use this combo on any deer, elk, moose.
I still have to recover a bullet out of 7 elk. ranges 40-400 yards
Posted By: MontanaMan Re: .284 140 TTSX for elk? - 08/18/19
Originally Posted by northcountry

Wonder what one could get out of a 7-08 with the 140 TTSX. Thanks Cheers NC


Around 2850-2900, realistically.

I've used 120 TSX's at 3000 - 3050 for a long time & they work just fine on elk.

MM
Plain old cup and bullets killed dozens of elk for me... I am sure this should be outstanding, they just beat these questions to death...
Killed one bull with my .284 Win using the 140gr TTSX at 2920 FPS. Range 247 yards with bull not quite facing me but close. Bullet entered where the chest met the right shoulder and destroyed the inside portion of the joint, took out the lung behind it, traveling completely through the animal and exiting through the thick ham muscle on the other side. A little over 4’ of penetration through a mature bull.

He tried to run, but couldn’t, staggering for a brief second before falling over and expiring.

I’d have no qualms about using that combo again.

I’ve also used the 120gr TTSX from the 7-08 and works beautifully on elk.
Posted By: RMerta Re: .284 140 TTSX for elk? - 08/26/19
Just loaded up some 145 LRX for my 7 Mag. At 200 yards those copper bullets are rough on my steel targets. At 400 yards they still wallop the railroad plate.
I can’t wait to run one through a elk this season.
Posted By: las Re: .284 140 TTSX for elk? - 08/26/19
140 gr out of anything will do it. My .260 did fine on the lone elkI have takenwith it

It just took two decent bull caribou on successive days. As it had several times in the past, as well. Up next, maybe, is moose.

Can't see how 140's could do worse in a .28

Oh yes, they were all factory Core-lokts. Yawn.... smile
Posted By: Deans Re: .284 140 TTSX for elk? - 09/03/19
Originally Posted by northcountry
Originally Posted by Deans
Shot my only elk (cow) with a 140 TTSX at 2860 with my 7-08. DRT.


Deans what length barrel? Thanks for your time. Cheers NC


24" Benchmark #5 contour 5R. On the heavy side but carries well.
Posted By: bludog Re: .284 140 TTSX for elk? - 09/10/19
120 gr TTSX at about 3050 fps out of my wife's 7-08ai took a nice bull at 400ish yards, Put the bull down, but he needed a finishing shot when she got up to the animal. If I had it to do all over again today, I would load her the Barnes 139 gr LRX, Due to the higher BC, that bullet would have caught up in velocity by about 350yds, and would have been a better choice for the distance she had to shoot.

If you're potentially shooting elk at a distance where bullet expansion could be challenged, it's hard to see any case where the 140 TTSX would be a better choice than the 139 LRX, imho

bludog
Posted By: vabowhntr Re: .284 140 TTSX for elk? - 09/11/19
With a 24” barrel Barnes says you can get 2900-2930ish with several powders. At 2900 fps, that puts you right at 1500 fpe at 400 yards at 5k feet elevation with the 140 gr. I’d shoot an elk at that range with the 7-08. Since the 120 gr ttsx at 3200 fps (with big game powder in my rifle) has outstanding accuracy and the same energy at that range with more speed to open up, I think I would just use it.
Originally Posted by vabowhntr
With a 24” barrel Barnes says you can get 2900-2930ish with several powders. At 2900 fps, that puts you right at 1500 fpe at 400 yards at 5k feet elevation with the 140 gr. I’d shoot an elk at that range with the 7-08. Since the 120 gr ttsx at 3200 fps (with big game powder in my rifle) has outstanding accuracy and the same energy at that range with more speed to open up, I think I would just use it.

The 120 TTSX is a great bullet for elk out to 400 yards in the 7-08. Taken a few bulls with it quite handily.
Posted By: Hawk_Driver Re: .284 140 TTSX for elk? - 09/29/19
Well, it worked. Got one last night. She came out on a hill we were watching. We had already ranged some points, so knew she was 300-325 yards. She was quartering away from me, feeding. Put it just behind the onside shoulder, came out the front of the far shoulder. My buddy said she dropped like a bag of hammers, kicked twice and that was it.

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