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Posted By: jackmountain Older Bushmaster quality - 10/10/21
How is quality on a mid 90’s Bushmaster?
The few i have handled and shot did well.
The one I owned from that era worked very well. Accurate too.
That's when they were still under original Bushmaster management. Quality was very good.
Posted By: hookeye Re: Older Bushmaster quality - 10/10/21
Had a pre ban that ran and looked perfect.
Posted By: BamBam Re: Older Bushmaster quality - 10/10/21
I have I believe a 91 patrolman’s carbine upper threw it on a mid 80s essential arms lower, accurate and reliable. I think bushmaster of that era were very well-made.I haven’t shot that set up in years I know the trigger sucks, Someday I’ll throw a better trigger in it.
Posted By: gunzo Re: Older Bushmaster quality - 10/10/21
I have 2 pre-Rem(Windham made) uppers & both are great. One is a V-match & it has always held it's own in accuracy with a lot of the later bull barrel varmint models of other brands.

I also have a complete carbine that is very well made IMO.
I've got a Bushy upper I purchased new in the late 1990's.

It's a nice upper. a Dissipator style. 1/9 twist, chrome lined, carbine gas system.

I've put it through a few different re-makes, trying to find my 'happy place' with it.

Here's a pic fairly stock, I just swapped the handguards for Magpul,
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Then I pulled the FSB and floated it. Pic with some 100 yard targets. The 1/9 didn't love the 77gr.
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Final iteration, and my favorite. I put the FSB back on, and put it in an A2 upper receiver. Love this.
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Under the handguards,
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Never any issues with quality.
This is a varmint model, very accurate with 65sgk’s. Hate the barrel length though. Thinking of ordering an 18” or 20” SPR contour barrel for it.
No issues but haven’t really pug that many rd’s through it either. Just wondered how quality compared to other brands at same price points. Always heard the earlier ones were decent guns.
I have had one of their 20" HBAR rifles with a factory float tube on it for over 20 years, and it has been a great rifle. The fit and finish is perfect (for an AR) and it is very accurate. Never had the slightest problem with it.
My buddy has an HBAR national match A2 with the 1 in 9 twist and he loves it. It shoots pretty good, he's never had any issues with it. It was made in the 90's. Excellent quality from what I've seen.
Other than Colt they were the nicest at the time...
Posted By: kwg020 Re: Older Bushmaster quality - 10/12/21
It's what Dyncorp provided for us in Afghanistan. I was completely confident in it.

kwg
Posted By: slm9s Re: Older Bushmaster quality - 10/12/21
That's from back when everyone recommended ABC. Armalite, Bushmaster, or Colt. I think I still have my first Bushmaster V-Match in the back of the safe somewhere...
Originally Posted by slm9s
That's from back when everyone recommended ABC. Armalite, Bushmaster, or Colt. I think I still have my first Bushmaster V-Match in the back of the safe somewhere...


Weird, I heard "ABC" meant Always buy Colt.. The reason behind that was because Colt appreciated very well, never really losing value.
Posted By: slm9s Re: Older Bushmaster quality - 10/12/21
That's the Oregon version. They can't remember more than one brand!
Posted By: UPhiker Re: Older Bushmaster quality - 10/12/21
Of course, back in the early 90s, about the only other well known choice was Olympic.
Older, 90s era Bushmasters (some) were made by LAR (Grizzly) company.

LAR was one of 4 major receiver companies in the United States at the time that produced AR receivers for pretty much everyone else.

Noveske and Spikes also used LAR Grizzly, who at the time was also a small time defense manufacturer and was building top notch products. You can tell if your older Bushmaster is one of the original LAR guns, as the serial number will start with an L.

I have an old 90s era Bushy and this is what the receiver markings look like:

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These were at the time, top notch receivers.
Posted By: TWR Re: Older Bushmaster quality - 10/12/21
They would've been on par with Colt if they had used a mil spec RE, staked the gas keys and castle nuts along with a few other small details.

But then again, Colt wasn't always up to snuff either, for example a plastic buffer in an A2 stock setup, what were they thinking?
I have an early Bushmaster, not sure what model they called it. 20" fluted heavy barrel with free float tube 1-8" twist. the only mod. I have done to this rifle is a JP trigger. It is so accurate that I never messed with it, just clean and shoot. It is the only factory AR that I own, all my other AR's are part's guns that I have put together
Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
Older, 90s era Bushmasters (some) were made by LAR (Grizzly) company.

LAR was one of 4 major receiver companies in the United States at the time that produced AR receivers for pretty much everyone else.

Noveske and Spikes also used LAR Grizzly, who at the time was also a small time defense manufacturer and was building top notch products. You can tell if your older Bushmaster is one of the original LAR guns, as the serial number will start with an L.



I have a couple LAR (Grizzly) billet uppers that are fantastic
Posted By: ChrisF Re: Older Bushmaster quality - 10/13/21
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Weird, I heard "ABC" meant Always buy Colt.. The reason behind that was because Colt appreciated very well, never really losing value.

Until they decided to put in that trigger block and use their proprietary pin size (Large pin Colt).
Posted By: gunner500 Re: Older Bushmaster quality - 10/13/21
Not mid 90's, but mid to latish [2007-2008] 2000's, bought one of the first 450 Bushmasters, it's been a rock solid chunker of Barnes HP's for near 15 years now, great rifle, accurate too.
Posted By: gunzo Re: Older Bushmaster quality - 10/13/21
Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
Older, 90s era Bushmasters (some) were made by LAR (Grizzly) company.

LAR was one of 4 major receiver companies in the United States at the time that produced AR receivers for pretty much everyone else.

Noveske and Spikes also used LAR Grizzly, who at the time was also a small time defense manufacturer and was building top notch products. You can tell if your older Bushmaster is one of the original LAR guns, as the serial number will start with an L.

I have an old 90s era Bushy and this is what the receiver markings look like:

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

These were at the time, top notch receivers.



Yeah, the good ones. Like the "L" prefix that's behind my bedroom door.

Were they better, or as good as Colt?

So many other Colt guns I felt were 30-40% name. The AR?
Originally Posted by gunzo
Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
Older, 90s era Bushmasters (some) were made by LAR (Grizzly) company.

LAR was one of 4 major receiver companies in the United States at the time that produced AR receivers for pretty much everyone else.

Noveske and Spikes also used LAR Grizzly, who at the time was also a small time defense manufacturer and was building top notch products. You can tell if your older Bushmaster is one of the original LAR guns, as the serial number will start with an L.

I have an old 90s era Bushy and this is what the receiver markings look like:

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

These were at the time, top notch receivers.



Yeah, the good ones. Like the "L" prefix that's behind my bedroom door.

Were they better, or as good as Colt?

So many other Colt guns I felt were 30-40% name. The AR?

I had one too. It was excellent. I sold it because it had a left hand upper on it and someone else wanted it more than I did. It was just as good as any other AR I have, maybe better in some regards:
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Posted By: MarkWV Re: Older Bushmaster quality - 10/14/21
IMO Bushmaster was always a quality product. I believe at one time they had some escapes on the BCG gas key screws not being staked. I have an early 2008 rifle and it’s been as good as the Colt.

Really don’t know about them since Remington acquired them.
Posted By: mike243 Re: Older Bushmaster quality - 10/24/21
I have had 1 for 10-12 years and no problems , killed several critters with it, will be used next weekend maybe, grand sons last juvy hunt.
Originally Posted by gunzo
Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
Older, 90s era Bushmasters (some) were made by LAR (Grizzly) company.

LAR was one of 4 major receiver companies in the United States at the time that produced AR receivers for pretty much everyone else.

Noveske and Spikes also used LAR Grizzly, who at the time was also a small time defense manufacturer and was building top notch products. You can tell if your older Bushmaster is one of the original LAR guns, as the serial number will start with an L.

I have an old 90s era Bushy and this is what the receiver markings look like:

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

These were at the time, top notch receivers.



Yeah, the good ones. Like the "L" prefix that's behind my bedroom door.

Were they better, or as good as Colt?

So many other Colt guns I felt were 30-40% name. The AR?


The LAR guns were comparable to Colt in that they were building guns to specification of the contracts. Later (in the mid 2000s) I spent a good bit of time at places where we had many hundreds of Colt M4 series weapons (running overseas armories), Colt Defense was definitely a putting out a very solid product. The older civilian version Colt 6920 and 6720 and variants were very well built guns, when they were done in-house. I cannot comment on the current product as I have not inspected one, but my personally owned ones are quite solid.

I worked on a few hundred Bushmasters that were newer (early 2000's ) guns and they were not on par as compared to the older Bushy guns when built by LAR. The Windham guns I would not even bother with.

In the past I always recommended a Colt or FN brand AR. Both companies have been providing rifles/carbines for our Armed Forces (and others) for decades and both build an excellent product.
Posted By: Jeff_O Re: Older Bushmaster quality - 02/19/22
My late-90’s M4’gery is dead nuts reliable and accurate. It’s my bump in the night rifle. Would not trade it for any other AR.
Posted By: ribka Re: Older Bushmaster quality - 02/24/22
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
My late-90’s M4’gery is dead nuts reliable and accurate. It’s my bump in the night rifle. Would not trade it for any other AR.


Jeff you've never even owned a gun in your life

Jeff you've spent the past 4 years on here peddling your Trump Russian collusion lies. you've proven over and over again you're a low iq anti gun, anti hunting pathological liar and a drug addict

didn't you injure yourself opening a box of nobler bullets? prove me wrong
Posted By: Jeff_O Re: Older Bushmaster quality - 02/24/22
This guy! ^^^ crazy Liar.

He’s just trying to get a reaction.

Ribka- unbunch your panties. I distilled it all down and put it right in my .sig for all to see. I ain’t hiding, and despite your best efforts, this is still America. I get an opinion.
Posted By: UPhiker Re: Older Bushmaster quality - 02/24/22
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
My late-90’s M4’gery is dead nuts reliable and accurate. It’s my bump in the night rifle. Would not trade it for any other AR.


Jeff you've never even owned a gun in your life

Jeff you've spent the past 4 years on here peddling your Trump Russian collusion lies. you've proven over and over again you're a low iq anti gun, anti hunting pathological liar and a drug addict

didn't you injure yourself opening a box of nobler bullets? prove me wrong

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