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If I'm hearing ya'll right, Stag is a good brand for lowers, yes?

I may just order up a couple complete lowers and stash 'em away until I can afford to build them into rifles... i just want to make sure I have good lowers.

-jeff
Yes they are as good as any others. I have used them twice, and will use them again
They are the best. They are made by CMT, the company that makes them for a lot of big names. CMT owns Stag.
Yep
Interesting, didn't know CMT owned Stag... Did know that CMT made for RRA last I heard.
Would think quality to be the same as long as CMT is the manufacturer so would seem to say Stag is fine, and thats basically what I've heard.

jeff
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Thanks guys!

-jeff
you know what I think
Um... Lewis, please indulge me if I should know this already... what do you think?

I don't always look who posted what when I am reading a thread, and I'm still catching up on who thinks what here on the 'Fire.

-jeff
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If I were to buy lowers or striped lowers to would be stag..from those that know they run consistent tolerances lot to lot


you didn't want striped ones grin
Originally Posted by lewis perkins
you know what I think


"Better be bomb-proof" would be my guess..... laugh laugh
Oh yeah!

Dang... I STILL don't want a striped lower. After all those pink and blue ones... what's next, polka dots?

Guess I'll have to look for a LMT or something...

-jeff
I am not married to "mil Spec" I am not shooting burst or full auto.I am not pushing the gun that hard.
But I want the most for my money. If you want to put some lowers away for a rainy day the last thing you need is to find out years later is your "bargin" lower is out of speck in some small way
Pin hole miss aligned, mag well slightly over or under size or angeled funny, too much or too little room in the trigger area
Stag is an outstanding product for the price. Is LMT better? Perhaps but it is not in the same price and avaliblity ballpark curently.
As long as stag is "good", then I'm fine with them. I'll probably buy assembled lowers anyway; it appears the labor to assemble them is about $25, so screw it... let someone who knows what they are doing put it together. Anyway, that means I can pop my Bushy M4 upper onto them and make sure everything works.

My first choice would be Bushy or RRA, but they are unobtainium right now it seems... and likely to stay that way.

-jeff
... and unless this thread has taken a strange turn that I'm not quite "getting", Stag are actually better than "good", right?

-jeff
YUP
The other day I saw a LMT complete lower with Ergo grip for $315/shipped to your FFL. That's a pretty good deal IMO and there's usually one or two floating around like that if you look.

On the other hand, I've seen deals on Stag like $100/ea (striped whistle laugh ) if you buy three or more which is a sweet deal for a quality stripped lower. The last time I checked they were $105-$125 depending on where you went.....
i bought 3 stag lowers when they were priced at $85/ea when you buy 3+... very happy w/ them, and will probably buy more from them when the time comes for another ar-15.
I just saw them again at a couple dealers for $100/ea shipped to your FFL....
Oh yeah? Where'd you see 'em?

-jeff
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AIM Surplus
I remember those guys from way back... think I bought some surplus from them or something like 10 years ago... or was that CTDirt...

-jeff
They had the best deals on SA suprlus 308 before it dried up....
I burned up some of that! And the Venezuelan in stripper clips, too, in reloadable brass... uh... Cavim, that was it. That stuff would lock up the bolt of the Savage tactical rifle I had...

-jeff
Originally Posted by lewis perkins
I am not married to "mil Spec" I am not shooting burst or full auto.I am not pushing the gun that hard.
But I want the most for my money. If you want to put some lowers away for a rainy day the last thing you need is to find out years later is your "bargin" lower is out of speck in some small way
Pin hole miss aligned, mag well slightly over or under size or angeled funny, too much or too little room in the trigger area
Stag is an outstanding product for the price. Is LMT better? Perhaps but it is not in the same price and avaliblity ballpark curently.


I think the right-hand Stag lowers are mil-spec. The Double Star lowers advertise they are mil-spec, but the cheaper "Superior Arms" doesn't sound like it is in the advertisement.

Parts don't often break, but mil-spec means most parts will interchange. Maybe ALL parts will interchange. I guess your match rifles are not mil-spec, as they have very close tolerances.

You don't save so much in labor when you put one together, you save because an assembled one is usually much more than $25 over a unassembled one. Generally, the assembled one comes with a pistol grip, which contains a small, tricky spring/detent that works with the safety, and the stock/buffer, which also contains a small tricky spring/detent to hold the takedown pin. Loosen that stock carelessly, and it will fly to some place God did not mean it to be, and you'll never find the spring. You can, of course, buy assembled lowers without the stock, buffer, and trigger guard, but with the rest of the parts already there, but I haven't seen them lately.

The "Superior Arms" lower said it had a "set screw" in the pistol grip for trigger adjustment. Somehow, I think this is the safety detent, but I don't know.
Gene

That spring for the safety is easy... just gotta know its there, its easier to deal with,imho, than putting the detents and springs in for the takedown pin...

The set screw in the pistol grip-- is not the safety detent, they actually( I used to do this circa late 80s as a help.... but it was all my works IE no parts just setscrews and adjust ments...) go up under the trigger leg and push it up, in basis pulling the trigger some, a pre load or whatever you'd call it taking up slack. Gotta be careful with them and the old systems we did often required safety or trigger trimming too....

AS far as cheap vs expensive, IMHO you'll never know till you assemble the parts, any of them can be a touch out and then depending on the parts you have may not be quite right...

Jeff
The set screw was advertised as a way to adjust the trigger, now that I think of it. But my triggers are adjustable anyway, and once I get them right, I locktite them to keep them from slipping.

ARs are subject to a lot of things. The most accurate AR I've ever owned was a Colt H-bar Match, during the ban. This shouldn't be, but it was.

It was one of those happy circumstances that when combined, combined magically and in just the right alignment to shoot really tighter than a Colt AR has the right to shoot, with the NATO chamber and all. The only difference from one off the shelf ws it had a floating barrel/fore-end.

I try to avoid really cheap, and seldom buy really expensive. I think for me, the average shooter, the answer lies somewhere between.
So is the trigger adjust screw on Superior good, or bad? Sounds good in theory?
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