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is it just another one of those "we created it to market it like it is special, but it's just an advertising ploy?"

When it first came out, or when I first heard about it, I thought it was going to be an incredible super powerful, quiet, ultra fast, kill game and enemies at 5 miles type of cartridge.

Now...I don't hear much about it.

I am interested in those of you that have shot it and your thoughts about how it fits into the "gun calibers who's who" list and if it belongs there?
nobody has shot this caliber? or has any input on it?
how a small cartridge can kill at 5 miles is tough to figure

Works like the 300/221 did years ago suppressed.

Mine are good to about 200 yards subsonic on any game so far. 194 lehighs kill really well.

A buddy shoots his supersonic, but suppressed... works well too.

Have two......Ruger ARR bolt.....tuned & tweaked...

Aero Precision AR w/Shilen SS tube......built from ground up...

Do not have can on either one....cool cartridge....bought a

bunch of formed LC & Fed brass 2 yrs ago...boolit of choice for me

is the 110 Horny or Nosler...1680 or H110 powder...the Ruger is

a great handy & accurate truck gun...run 9/Blue Dot & 110 for a

quiet around the house load...can't say anything bad about it..

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Originally Posted by rost495
how a small cartridge can kill at 5 miles is tough to figure


I agree. I was exaggerating and meant it as a bit of, well, sarcasm I guess.
tikkanut: thats a fine looking gun, nothing short of a 10 out of 10! It must be great to be able to get out in t he hills and have all those miles and miles to shoot where you want. (safely, of course)

I live in central Minnesota and here we are compressed to shooting where our land lies. There is public land but nothing like what you have I suspect.
I built my 300 AAC out of curiosity just to see how it would do. I really like shooting it. It is outstanding for the vel. you get out of such a small case and small charge of powder. My 300 ACC will group both the Speer 125 gr TNT and Hornady 110 V-Max into the same group with Lil'Gun. I believe it will make a great calling rifle in the Pines and thick brushy woods.

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I can't tell that it, supersonic, kills any different than a 223 for me. But suppressed it fits a niche for me.

Supersonic it performs just like a 7.62x39, but with better bullets. It really is that simple.
Interesting cartridge. I keep one as the HD long gun.

FWIW Nosler has announced a 220gr Ballistic Tip, specifically designed for subsonic loads. I plan to try some soon in my rifle.
I built one to play with. Actually tex n cal helped me screw the barrel on.

It is fun. My kids like it. The 9 year old killed a doe with it in January and my 8 year old killed a pig with it this past weekend. It does fine with 125 gr BT's.

I would like to have a can but I don't plan on paying the tax man. So, I probably wouldn't build another one.
I won one at a Ducks Unlimited event and had plans to sell or trade . After shooting the rifle I decided to hang on to it .

I have been shooting factory Hornady 110 v-max rated at 2080 fps . I'm impressed with the accuracy and put on a Nikon 3x9x40 scope .

Im looking at other factory ammo that is 200 grain bullet at 1000 fps . That's real close to a 45 acp numbers .

After building my Aero Precision AR 300 BLK.....

had to have a RARR in BLK...all pimped & tweaked..

shoots great...yes..the 125 Speer TNT works great too...

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Got a S&W M&P15 in .300BLK with the intent to shoot it with a can.

Don't have the can yet but it is a sweet shooter with Barnes 110 TAC-TX, 110g Hornady V-MAX, 125g Nosler Ballistic Tip and subsonic 208g Hornady A-MAX.

Probably won't use it for hunting but it wasn't purchased for that. Might use it for varmint control once i get a can.

As someone else mentioned, H110 and AA1680 are your friends.
Love mine. Have 2. Both can be suppressed. My HD is a 8.5 " kak BBL with Kak blade. My carbine shoots well and have a Leupold with hash marks that I shoot well out to 300 yds. Even suppressed subs to 300. I like the 208 amax for subs. A 1680 or lil gun is my go to powder. I pick up .30 Cal bullets cheap now that everyone is ditching for the 6.5s. I have enough .30 for life now
I'm in the process of building one, I intend to cut my teeth on reloading with it. Will be dedicated for hogs and maybe let a youth kill a doe with it.
Originally Posted by rost495
how a small cartridge can kill at 5 miles is tough to figure

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Not really. There are far more places it could than it could not. The problem is getting a hit, not killing afterwards.

LOL< the OP was making a joke.... I don't know for sure, but I am wondering, at 5 miles, could the bullet even penetrate anything? Espeically with a piss poor BC and started sub sonic?

Honestly its getting hard to hit things at times once you pass 1000, my longest ones have been around 1860 yards, hits that is on targets and having groups at that range. Thats barely over a mile... and it was not with a small round... LOL
BTW, Hodgdon's online data used to show 18gr as max in the .300 with 125gr bullets and Lil'Gun - but showed low pressure. They've now revised the charges upward and now show 21gr as max with Lil'Gun, giving velocities right at 2400 fps out of a 16" barrel. That's pretty hard on the heels of the 7.62x39
But for the trouble I"d just shoot x39 personally... but thats just me..
Originally Posted by Oakburner
is it just another one of those "we created it to market it like it is special, but it's just an advertising ploy?"

When it first came out, or when I first heard about it, I thought it was going to be an incredible super powerful, quiet, ultra fast, kill game and enemies at 5 miles type of cartridge.

Now...I don't hear much about it.

I am interested in those of you that have shot it and your thoughts about how it fits into the "gun calibers who's who" list and if it belongs there?


Even when it "first came out" anyone who thought the 300 was going to be super powerful, fast, or a long range round obviously wasn't paying attention. It was never marketed or hyped that way by anyone who knew what was what.

Just like any other round, within it's niche, yeah it's special. Outside of that, not so much.
Originally Posted by rost495
LOL< the OP was making a joke.... I don't know for sure, but I am wondering, at 5 miles, could the bullet even penetrate anything? Espeically with a piss poor BC and started sub sonic?

Honestly its getting hard to hit things at times once you pass 1000, my longest ones have been around 1860 yards, hits that is on targets and having groups at that range. Thats barely over a mile... and it was not with a small round... LOL


I was thinking the vacuum of outer space. If mankind doesn't destroy itself first, someday we will colonize the moon, asteroids, and beyond.

At 5 miles the bullet could still be travelling at the original muzzle velocity, maybe faster, depending on local gravitational fields.

Dang, you were out of the box by far on that one... had not thought of that....
Subsonic it has some nice features for supressed use. Supersonic it's a .30 M1 carbine on steroids, which is hardly a bad thing smile

It uses the same bolt & magazines as a .223 So logistically, it's a neat deal.
The idea of a 8-10" barreled .300 BLK with a suppressor fascinates me.
Originally Posted by BarryC
The idea of a 8-10" barreled .300 BLK with a suppressor fascinates me.

Word
Originally Posted by rost495
Dang, you were out of the box by far on that one... had not thought of that....


Many (50-ish) years ago I took a quiz that I think was created by NASA. The question was, given a list of items, which three would you take if stranded in space.

One of the correct answers was a handgun. The reasoning was you could use it as a means of propulsion. It is the only answer and item I remember.


Thats wild. Would likley have not thought of that.

That said, no oxygen in space? Will powder burn?

I guess something has to, for how far we have gotten, but are they adding O2 to fuel to get it to burn?

I'm afraid this is getting way past my pay grade. LOL
Gunpowder has its own oxidizer - no atmospheric oxygen needed.

I remember I didn't choose the gun as one of my three choices.

Cool. I don't get into the why or how that much, just it works or it doesn't. STrange how different minds work.

Like a chrono and low readings ES/SD... I don't much care, I want to know ballpark speed. The lowest ES/SD that I've had have produced some of the worst groups.

I see how small (or not) the group is on a target at my max distance.( 1800 plus yards target was a 55 gallon drum. LOL. I was super glad to eventually drop 3 shots into under 12 inches there for sure)
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