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Posted By: Cheyenne Hickok45 on Ruger PC Carbine - 02/26/18
I guess I am going to have to wait a while before purchasing a Ruger PC Carbine. Note that he does a "tack-on" at the end of the video to discuss some testing that he did after he did the first segment of video. I wish somebody else besides Kel-Tec made a reasonably priced carbine that takes Glock magazines.

I've run 147gr through mine with zero FTF for ~200 rds. Not a big test but a good start!
he sure does go on, and on, and on...................... lol
He will talk to ya.
I hate long videos unless I really am interested in something. I tend to skip through talking parts and just watch the shooting parts.
I ran the 147’ subsonic’s with a suppressor and had zero issues. I actually liked the gun.
Click the "Settings" and turn the "Speed" up to 1.5 to listen to the talk, or 2.0 to get the video really moving.

Cuts your time in half and you still get the gist of the whole video.
I.Have a first generation. Pc40 carbine that's the one you want .It's like a 10 mm on.power mine shoots a 200 grain bullet 1200 fps no problem .It dies not like cheap junk ammo so I buy good stuff like white box Winchester .I have shot that stuff 5000 ,rounds no.problem ! I wish my older carbine took block mags but it always shoots !
I.Have a first generation. Pc40 carbine that's the one you want .It's like a 10 mm on.power mine shoots a 200 grain bullet 1200 fps no problem .It dies not like cheap junk ammo so I buy good stuff like white box Winchester .I have shot that stuff 5000 ,rounds no.problem ! I wish my older carbine took block mags but it always shoots !
I'm going to end up with one, just haven't done so yet.

dgr416, what mags do the 1st generation carbines use?
I didnt watch the whole thing but he said he shot both mags

Can you shoot both or isnt therean adapter for the Glock mags that needs to be installed?

Hank
After the inconsistent accuracy issues I had with my 10/22 takedowns, I’m leery of anything Ruger Takedown
If Fuddkok45 doesn't like the Ruger carbine, will he be calling for a ATF/NFA ban on it also?

Never forget which of the "gun guys" have helped throw us under the bus.
Posted By: MWN Re: Hickok45 on Ruger PC Carbine - 04/04/18
Got one of these 9mm carbines a month or two ago and have been out with it twice. I have an Eotech on it and find it a solid shooter.

First Impressions: It's 'chunky'; certainly solid, a bit heavier than I expected. I don't consider it a problem, just an observation. Seems well made and well thought out. I like the take-down feature; it's like the take-down 10-22 just a little more robust. I switched it out to the Glock magazine application and that only took a couple minutes.

Shooting: I've used seven different Glock 17/19 magazines and several different types of ammo; 115, 124 and 147 grain. Included ball ammo, commercial hollow-points, Blazer, and some nasty Indian surplus military ammo I bought a bunch of years ago. I intentionally mixed rounds in magazines. Everything functioned 100% on both outings; feeding and ejection was no problem. I've put about 300 rounds through it so far and have not experienced any problems like Hickock45 did. I just obtained two Glock 18 mags (33-shot) and will try them out soon to see what happens with them. If I experience any failures with them, then I'm going back to the 17/19 Glock mags.

The unit fits in the 10-22 Takedown bag ~okay, i.e., it will fit but it's tight when you have all the spacers in place.

I've have (or had) several other PC carbines; Keltec 2000 40, Beretta Storm 9mm, HiPoint 45, and JustRight Carbine 45. My favorite one was the Beretta Storm but it's now on permenant loan to my granddaughter. Never bonded with the Keltec although it functioned fine, I just didn't like shooting it and couldn't mount optics on it easily. The JR Carbine 45acp was a major disappointment; it was very ammo specific and I just couldn't make it work right (sent it back twice). I still have the HiPoint .45; yes it's major league fugley but it goes bang with whatever type of ammo it is given.

Ruger certainly has the take-down feature figured out and being able to use Glock mags is a big plus. One of these tucked away in the family Truckster along with a Glock 17/19 in the storage bag would make for great ace-in-the-hole.

NOTE: I'm in communication with Andy at Skinner Sights and he's coming up with a carry case specifically for the Ruger PC. I'll update when I get one.
Thanks for the post, MWN.
My Ruger PC 9 Carbine is a whole lotta fun in a compact package.
Functionally, it works with either Ruger SR 9 mags, and with the magwell adapter switched to Glock, it functioned fine.
One thing it won't do is hold the bolt open on the last shot with either the G19 mags or the 30-33? round Glock mags.
The mag latch appears to be shorter vertically than the latches on Glocks, and this allows the Glock mags to rattle around loosely in the magwell. If you put upward pressure on the magazine while firing, it will lock open when empty.
Wiggling the magazine with the bolt locked open, the latch will disengage and the bolt slams shut.

With this gun being a blowback action, the bolt is heavy.
One thing to be aware of, due to the bolt having a lot of inertia, loading a mag in with the bolt held open is a little risky. The 10-22 style bolt latch will release the bolt if the gun is jarred. It takes a surprisingly little bump and the bolt closes.

I'm thinking about having a reflex sight inset into the picatinny rail receiver top, low enough to co-witness with the iron sights.

P.S. In 300+ rounds so far, there have been three failures.
One stovepipe jam, and two times the trigger didn't reset.
This is shooting very mild 115 FMJ's over Red Dot.
It hasn't hiccuped at all on factory full velocity ammunition.


I'll wait for the 45 version, thanks.
Or 40 cal.
Originally Posted by viking
Or 40 cal.

Ruger produced a 40 a number of years ago for LE. They are available in the used market. However, they are not a take down.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/763795700
Posted By: MM879 Re: Hickok45 on Ruger PC Carbine - 04/30/18
I really like Hickok45. His video's are amazing. I can watch them for hours. The Ruger is a nice update for the old M1 30 cal.
MM87
He has a part 2 video with a different Ruger PC
No issues at all
My Ruger PC has been awesome. Glock 33 round Mags eat up ammo in a hurry. It's fun to shoot I took scouts out shooting two weeks ago and 500 rounds went down range in less than an hour.
Originally Posted by 86thecat
If Fuddkok45 doesn't like the Ruger carbine, will he be calling for a ATF/NFA ban on it also?

Never forget which of the "gun guys" have helped throw us under the bus.



I missed it what did 45 say/do ?


Mike
Publicly threw bumpfire stocks under the bus when NRA called for ATF to ban them.
While I do for the most part like Hickok45's videos, like any other gun writer, it's quite clear he shills for gun mfgrs that give him stuff.
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
he sure does go on, and on, and on...................... lol


He's an idiot.............way better things to do than watch him.

MM
Posted By: Sako Re: Hickok45 on Ruger PC Carbine - 05/02/18
[quote=hh4whiskey]After the inconsistent accuracy issues I had with my 10/22 takedowns, I’m leery of anything Ruger Takedown[/quote

Interesting. My takedown is very pretty accurate... 1/2 inch at 50 yards.... However, it certainly likes wolf match better than most others.
Originally Posted by MontanaMan
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
he sure does go on, and on, and on...................... lol


He's an idiot.............way better things to do than watch him.

MM


Well heck , I must be an idiot too cuz I like Hickok 45.
Posted By: GeoW Re: Hickok45 on Ruger PC Carbine - 06/04/18
A wanna be clown with a gun...a bad combination. A little of his bullshit goes a long way for many.

G
I've had a PC Carbine for about 3 months and threw a cheap Sig Romeo5 on it. I have had some malfunctions that I attributed to a failure to reset. Too many times, though, I have racked and continued without stopping to analyze. I am now pretty sure the reset problem is me. I am used to riding the Glock reset, and it doesn't work the same way on this gun, at least for me. Otherwise, it is pretty fun.
One other tip. If you are used to running an AR, be sure to reprogram your brain before the "shoot stimuli" occurs to remember that the safety is a cross-bolt type in front of the trigger guard. It can save you some time and maybe even your life.
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