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Posted By: Statedriller 220 conibears - 08/27/12
Is there really much difference between the different trap makers when it comes to 220 conibears? I'm looking to buy some new ones, but not sure which to go with.
Posted By: WV_Airedale Re: 220 conibears - 08/27/12
I am looking at 220's this year as well, hope someone in the know answers
Posted By: ranger1 Re: 220 conibears - 08/27/12
Stay away from Duke and you will be fine. I picked up two dozen Dukes years ago and had nothing but trouble with them - triggers falling apart, springs coming off the trap, rivet in the jaws breaking. Victor Conibears have always served me well, but Sleepy Creek, BMI, and Belisle all make a good trap.
Posted By: Steelhead Re: 220 conibears - 08/27/12
I've always run Victors
Posted By: Jude Re: 220 conibears - 08/27/12
Take a look at bridger magnum body grips.
Posted By: DakotaDeer Re: 220 conibears - 08/31/12
The Bridger is the one to get currently, if you're looking for good value at the price point. Victors will get it done, as will Dukes if necessary. Belisle if you want the best.
Posted By: 358wsm Re: 220 conibears - 08/31/12
Belisle.


However, if you suspect theft, you might want to run Dukes in those areas.


As a side note, I dunno what species you are after, but 160's are pretty bad azz for everything up to, but Not including, beaver (and they're lighter to pack in numbers and slightly more pet friendly).

Nothing but 330's for Beaver though... but you knew that smile
Posted By: erich Re: 220 conibears - 09/03/12
Never cared much for 220 on land, they do make a fair otter trap.

I never set anything bigger than 120's on land for mink and rats. Coon, Fox and Beaver I used alot of snares, they don't spook anything if the get knocked down and are easier to carry, set and less problem with theft because you don't have the buckets or cubbies.
Posted By: readonly Re: 220 conibears - 09/04/12

Nothing wrong with the Dukes, they are not top of the line but they are functional, and with a little tuning will continue to work for many years.

Belisle are considered by many to be top of the line and have many high quality features. Aside from the high price they have one very big downside....when set the jaws are offset too much for them to be used with stakelizers or other bracket style supports.

So I would agee that the bridger magnums are the best bang for the buck.
Posted By: 22WRF Re: 220 conibears - 09/04/12
Check with Minnesota Trapline Products. They just this past year purchased the Bridger Trap Company and I believe they are attempting to make the body grips traps even better than they already were.

I don't know if it is still happening, but a few years ago I tried some Duke body grip traps and the steel was so soft that when you made a catch the frames became bent. I have had some bridgers for over 5 years that are as good as the day I purchased them new.
Posted By: readonly Re: 220 conibears - 09/09/12
Alright I just got three dozen of the new bridger 220 mags and I don't recommend them for this reason: what a freaking mess out of the box, 75% of the springs had round the corner of the jaw. With a good pair of setters I was able to get all the springs set, but it took 3x as long as it should have. IMO a design flaw. The spring naturally pushes the eye over the corner and then is a pain to get back. Could not reasonably be done without setters and for many years I used my hands or a rope. I recently bought 3 dozen of their new 155 mags and didn't have that problem.

If I was buying 220's to use in boxes or buckets, I'd get belisles, and to use in trails with stakelizer I'd go with sleepyr creek. Buy quality and cry once.
Posted By: LNF150 Re: 220 conibears - 09/09/12
Belisles for sure. Yes they are canadian (not that there is anything wrong with that) and more pricey (you get what you pay for), but canadian govt actually has an institute that does extensive studies on traps for their fur industry. Belisles traps usually come out on top. There quality, design and effecienty is about unsurpassed.

I love the safeties on them, they stay put when you need them to, but with the push of the thumb rotate easily out of the way.
Posted By: cra1948 Re: 220 conibears - 09/12/12
I have had great luck with the BMI magnums in that size on fisher etc.
Posted By: Ghostinthemachine Re: 220 conibears - 10/01/12
Haven't trapped in over 20 years but if you buy Victor traps, you have nothing to worry about.

Quality product.

Yes you can buy cheaper, but in the long run they are worth it.
Posted By: readonly Re: 220 conibears - 10/02/12
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Haven't trapped in over 20 years but if you buy Victor traps, you have nothing to worry about.

Quality product.

Yes you can buy cheaper, but in the long run they are worth it.


Not meaning to offend you, but traps have changed a lot (for the better) in the last 20 years.
Posted By: Ghostinthemachine Re: 220 conibears - 10/02/12
Originally Posted by readonly
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Haven't trapped in over 20 years but if you buy Victor traps, you have nothing to worry about.

Quality product.

Yes you can buy cheaper, but in the long run they are worth it.


Not meaning to offend you, but traps have changed a lot (for the better) in the last 20 years.


Not offended at all. I'm old. grin In what ways have they changed?

My nephew bought a bunch of Duke traps a few years ago and I thought they looked kinda junky.
Posted By: readonly Re: 220 conibears - 10/03/12
Dukes are functional but not top of the line. Were there any magnum body grippers 20 years ago? There are number available today. The market is forcing inovation through competition. As far as coilsprings go, check out the MBs, they have set the bar high.
Posted By: 160user Re: 220 conibears - 10/03/12
Bridger makes a quality product that is much cheaper than Belisle.
Posted By: readonly Re: 220 conibears - 10/03/12
Originally Posted by 160user
Bridger makes a quality product that is much cheaper than Belisle.


So I bought several dozen each of the new bridger 155s and 220s. The 155s, no problem. However on the 220s, the spring eyes were extended over the corners of the jaws on most the traps, right out of the box. Major pain in the ass, and would have been impossible to get them all set without a good pair of long handle setters. Design flaw imo.
Posted By: Ghostinthemachine Re: 220 conibears - 10/03/12
Originally Posted by readonly
Dukes are functional but not top of the line. Were there any magnum body grippers 20 years ago? There are number available today. The market is forcing inovation through competition. As far as coilsprings go, check out the MBs, they have set the bar high.


What's a 'magnum'? grin

Back in the day we just had 110s, 120s, 220s and 330s.

Glad to hear things are progressing.
Posted By: readonly Re: 220 conibears - 10/03/12
Magnum has stronger springs and the jaws close completely without a gap.
Posted By: Ghostinthemachine Re: 220 conibears - 10/04/12
Having been caught in a few conibears in my day, I'm not sure I like the sound of those Magnums. lol
Posted By: 22WRF Re: 220 conibears - 10/22/12
Originally Posted by readonly
Originally Posted by 160user
Bridger makes a quality product that is much cheaper than Belisle.


So I bought several dozen each of the new bridger 155s and 220s. The 155s, no problem. However on the 220s, the spring eyes were extended over the corners of the jaws on most the traps, right out of the box. Major pain in the ass, and would have been impossible to get them all set without a good pair of long handle setters. Design flaw imo.


Maybe I am just unlucky, but I don't think I have ever had a brand of body grip trap that didn't do that, including victors.
Posted By: readonly Re: 220 conibears - 10/23/12
I've had one slip the corner every now and then, but half the springs on these 3 dozen 220's were over the corner straight out of the box. I never had anything even close to that.
Posted By: Statedriller Re: 220 conibears - 11/23/12
OK, I ended up buying some Belisles. Man are they a pain to set. Super stiff springs and shorter than my old Victors. I also can only set them on the furthest notch and have to flex the trap a bit to get it there. And the trigger flops around quite a bit when set. Not use to that either. Plus the darn things don't fit in my round buckets. But on the upside, when the coon gets his head in there, he is DRT. No flopping at all. Man those things kill quick. I've got some new buckets cut and I think these are gonna be great. Thanks for all the recommendations...
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