As far as Im aware Derek is the only MP speaking out. I really feel for these doctors. They are trying to do the right thing, and getting smeared for it. I do believe a reckoning is coming, and it cant come soon enough as far as Im concerned. Like the 2nd doctor says, how many people have died needlessly ?? A must watch video for anyone interested in the truth, or younger people thinking about taking the vaccine.

https://www.cpac.ca/en/programs/covid-19-canada-responds/episodes/66396178/

I just had my second Moderna shot and I was informed yesterday that I died.

Who knew?

Personally Im glad you didnt. Long term effects might be a different story.

This doctors credentials are beyond reproach. He's one of the best in the world and certainly not a conspiracy theorist, or anti vaxxer. His opinions should be taken seriously.

https://rumble.com/vhp8e1-massive-world-renowned-doctor-blows-lid-off-of-covid-vaccine.html

This fellow is an interesting guy. I admittedly dont know much about him, other than he is a Canadian with what seems to be a first class education.
https://rumble.com/vishfj-dr.-roger-hodkinson-explains-risks-of-covid-vaccines-side-effects.html

These are just two examples of thousands out there. Are they right ?? Thats a question only time will answer, but one things for sure; they are/were right about HQ and ivermectin. We have peer reviewed science that proves it. Yet the government is still trying to suppress and censor that information and are not allowing doctors to use these drugs, even when people are dying from covid. Those are the people you are trusting....

I'm really happy saddlecum got his second shot, hoping for the best.

When are you going to stop flogging this horse. Surely it must by dead by now.

Jim

I agree it should be, but guess what, were still locked down. Thats two whole years many businesses have lost. Lots of them no longer exist. Even though over 70% of the residents in the Territory have been vaccinated. And to top it all off we are now having our worst outbreak to date. Communities are shutting down, no new people allowed in. A big construction company just got kicked out of a community up north because the FN band is terrified of covid even though they were the first to get the vaccine. Meanwhile the US is putting it behind them. No unfortunately the horse isnt dead yet. Our emergency measures were extended for another 3-months so its not likely to end soon. What did the vaccine get us ?? We were told once 70% were vaccinated life would go back to normal. That was obviously a lie. From where Im sitting the vaccine made no difference at all.

Have you ever noticed how many of these guys resort to childish name calling, but have nothing intelligent to say beyond this?

It reminds me of being 8 years old and trading zingers at recess in elementary school.

Maybe yes, maybe no. Time will tell.

Yukoner, I would like to know what Texas and a few other States are doing differently then us up here.
Why is it that they can be back to some what normal living again.

is it perhaps the weather, more sunshine ?
What ever it is, we need to import some of it, or all of it.

Unfortunately, it's the only thing he does.

It isn't surprising that Derek Sloan is the only MP trying to raise political capital from his opposition to vaccines and lockdowns.

After all this is the same guy who panders to ultra-conservative religious groups by opposing abortion and same-sex marriage, attacks LGBT groups, and has accepted campaign donations from white supremacist groups.

This is the same MP that the Conservative party booted from caucus and now sits as an independent MP. He is a pariah in his own former party so he really has nothing to lose. And his extremist views do play well with fellow extremists who send him money.

As for his claims that the three doctors that he dug up represent the views of many other doctors, this claim is false.

For example, with regards to Dr. Byram Bridle, his fellow immunologists have stated that he misinterprets studies and data; that his claims are unsubstantiated; and that his views do not align with the mainstream. In other words, they are HIS views alone, and not those of "many" other doctors.

The majority of doctors Canada-wide do not agree with these three doctors.

And Derek Sloan is basically just an ostracized independent "shock-jock" politician who sensationalizes and exaggerates issues to gain support from others with extreme views.

Lots of nonsense in this ^^ The doctors that agree with the three Sloan had with him are in the tens of thousands.....literally. The doctor from Texas that testified before the senate a couple weeks ago is the most published doctor in the history of medicine. He agrees with the three Canadians on all points. His credentials speak for themselves. You can discount him all you want, but that doesnt make him wrong. The data on HQ and ivermectin has been peer reviewed now. Why you would continue to disagree with doctors who are pointing that out is tantamount to denying science...

Yup. A lot of nonsense, indeed. More of the leftist strategy to label anybody with views that differ from their own as “extremists.” There’s always another side to the coin.

It is refreshing to see that the Socialist Saddlebum is just as stupid on Canadian threads as American ones. I’m curious Saddlebum. Do you wear your I Love Treadau t shirt outside of the house?

Can you name 10 such doctors from those "tens of thousands" ?

And Derek Sloan is indeed an ostracized ex-conservative who panders to his followers with sensationalist drivel.

And these 3 doctors are in a small minority in Canada. There peers do not agree with them.

Do you notice how this little man also resorts to childish name-calling, but has nothing intelligent to say beyond this? Very much like 673.

And, since I am a gun owner and have published many positive posts about firearms, why would anybody believe that I am a socialist, a communist, a leftist, a trudeau lover, or any of these other ridiculous accusations?

Really, it is very simple.

I simply do not buy the B.S. that the anti-vaxers try to get the gullible to believe.

It is also interesting that Conservative Premier Kenney and Conservative Premier Ford both favor vaccines and have imposed lockdowns.

I guess that that must mean that they must be socialists, communists, leftists, and trudeau lovers.

According to your logic(?) what other reason could there be?

For some strange reason people still aren’t willing to consider the very thing they were asking for in the first place. Most arguments against the use of Ivermectin, HQ, etc, etc as treatment or preventative to C19 has been a lack of Peer reviewed studies. Now those studies are starting to pile up with positive results, yet people still want to ignore it and call others conspiracy theorists. I don’t get it.

Even a non-supporter of Derrick Sloan can recognize he was a perfect sacrificial lamb for Erin Otoole to offer up to more liberal voters. His participation shouldn’t take away from what’s happening to doctors and scientists and the growing scientific evidence.

Saddlegun
If anything, you’re proving that political bias is interfering with scientific debate.

Can you see the hypocrisy in you criticizing yukon254 for speaking on behalf of the "tens of thousands" of doctors, and in the same post you pretend to speak on behalf of the entire community of medical doctors in Canada?

In today's society, there are plenty of leftists that are pro-firearms. People are calling you these things because your opinions and statements on here seem to be consistent with much of the leftist rhetoric. Labeling those who disagree with you as "extremists" is a red flag, for sure.

Wow Saddlebum that was quite a dissertation. As Jordan pointed out you’re a hypocrite but most Covitards are.

Once again this guy has nothing intelligent to offer beyond parroting another member.

What tens of thousands of doctors? I have yet to see any evidence of this claim.

And I don't speak on behalf of the entire medical community of Canada. These three doctors have said themselves that their views are not agreed with by the vast majority of doctors in Canada.

So, how can someone who is pro-firearm and voted Conservative be a leftist?

Does someone who favors a Conservative government and is pro-firearm have to accept every nut-bar theory advanced by a minority of people?

And like I said, Conservative Premiers Kenney and Ford favor vaccines and lockdowns.

Does that make them and their Conservative parties leftists?

Fair enough, but my point is that nobody has asked every doctor in Canada what their opinion is, so it's silly to make statements like that. I think it's safe to say that lots of doctors agree with one side of the debate, and a lot agree with the other side. To put quantifying adjectives on the number of doctors on each side is likely ill-informed, at best.

It's similar to the climate change debate and the "the science is settled, 97% of scientists agree" statement. As a scientist, nobody called and asked me what I think about it. Nobody asked any of my colleagues, either. These types of statements and numbers are just pulled out of thin air and are based on very biased data samples.

Hey as long as you wear your mask and get your shot everything will be ok. You go girl…

Well, I'm not interested in trying to label you, but some behaviours and beliefs are consistent with leftist ideology. For starters, voting Conservative doesn't mean much. We don't have a truly conservative party in Canada, we have leftist parties and a centrist party. Further, labeling truly conservative ideas as "nut-bar theor[ies] advanced by a minority of people" is certainly a leftist tactic. Around here, the ideas you're referring to seem to be fairly mainstream among the rank-and-file average citizens.

And yes, despite party affiliations, lockdowns are certainly leftist/totalitarian actions, reminiscent of dictatorships and totalitarian regimes, especially compared with the approach taken by districts such as Texas and Florida.

In any case, having a difference of opinion and an ensuing debate is healthy, but name-calling and ad hominem attacks are almost never productive. I won't call your beliefs "extreme", and I don't expect my beliefs (including my religious beliefs) to be labeled as "extreme", "nut-bar", etc., either.

Easily :Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Roger Hodkinson, Dr Michael Yeadon, Dr. Pierre Kory, Dr. Hooman Noorchashm, Dr. Don J. Tynes, Dr. Simone Gold, Dr Andrew Kaufman, Dr. James Todaro , Dr Scott A. Barbour. There are tens of thousands more. Doubt that go to the American Front Lines Doctors Alliance, or read the Great Barrington Declaration.

If you choose to live in your alternate reality, junior, more power to you.

The funny thing is that where I live in here in Alberta the community is just about 95% Conservative party voters.

Yet I haven't heard a word spoken against wearing masks, or wearing masks in the stores.

Nobody beeches about wearing masks at the local Walmart. There have been no incidents whatsoever.

And everybody is booking and getting their vaccine shots at the pharmacies.

I haven't heard anyone say otherwise.

So, following the mask protocols and getting the vaccines enjoys widespread Conservative value acceptance.

But, since they obviously don't take any stock in Derek Sloan's sensationalist views, I guess that all of these people must be leftists, communists, and trudeau lovers.

(But don't say that to any one of them.)

So, you do believe that the Conservative governments in Alberta and Ontario are leftist and totalitarian regimes?

I wonder then what party you will vote for in the next election?

I have had Covid 19 and amazingly lived through it because it’s SO deadly… 😂 Mask up and get your shot because you’re scared.

You go girl…

I think the whole mask wearing thing is stupid as hell but I does whine about it. I am also suspicious of the vaccines simply because the government drones are pushing so hard and lying to us while they are at it. GD

This about sums it up.

https://www.americanthinker.com/art...troying_america_just_to_spite_trump.html

This tiresome little man reminds me of a yappy little chihuahua.

He never contributes anything useful to the discussion. He just barks at you from a safe distance, in hopes that that will wear you down.

More childish racist nonsense from saddle bags No one is surprised.

Silly Trudeau inspired covid virtue signaling by left wing nut bag. He doesn’t even know how long the shots last. One month? 7 months? A year?


I see dozens of Canadian down here every day shopping, in bars restaurants . None wear a mask or social distance. A hour from the border.

Saddle nut. I see that your hero Trudeau didn’t even bother wearing his mask or social distance at the G7 last week. And the science denying covid nut jobs still worship him. Lol

I hope Americans don't think any of us agree or even like saddlegun. I'm convinced he's a Liberal plant to derail discussion. I say we collectively place him on ignore.

Those doctors were brave at Derek Sloans presentation.

Of course it does, since that was only last week.

saddle nutz is a dum progressive's sock puppet. pretty obvious from his ignorance concerning firearms