It’s sad that my old stomping grounds are being kicked in the nads.
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These charts show how much more often unvaccinated Albertans are being hospitalized and dying from COVID-19

Alberta Health data accounts for age, vaccination status and population size of each group

Robson Fletcher · CBC News

Recent rates of hospitalization, intensive care unit (ICU) admission and death among unvaccinated Albertans have been at least eight times higher — and as much as 60 times higher — compared to the fully vaccinated population, depending on which age range you look at.
That's according to a new CBC News analysis of data published by the provincial government.
Data experts with Alberta Health reviewed the analysis and confirmed the methodology as an effective way to compare severe outcomes relative to both vaccination status and age — while also accounting for the population sizes of each group.

The rest here - https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-severe-outcomes-covid-vaccination-1.6178449

Knock it off Steve, your going to throw Hinshaw, Fauchi & a bunch of Pfizer execs into another round of chain orgasms..........

Shush.

Waste of time - You're preaching to the "Muh freedoms or death" crowd here.

They'll follow up with their own unbiased facts soon.

I know, but it is entertaining.

It’s all the truck drivers and press operators with either (or both) medical and law degrees, who don’t believe credentialed doctors. They do believe their barber, or the guy at the restaurant who has a friend who works in Washington as a Walmart greeter and has a web site - www.thegnarlytruththeydontwantyoutoknow.com.

Real information isn't hard to find. The fellow in this video does know what he's talking about. Compare his credentials with the local talking heads that your're listening to.

Professor Christian Perronne, former vice president of the World Health Organization European Advisory Group of Experts in Immunization.

https://americasfrontlinedoctors.or..._rxbLJ4Vmh0JgVsuqKERC_zD_NJQTxS9kuzOly60

Lot's of good information on this website. Pay attention, don't let your cognitive dissonance obscure your vision.

Vaccination uptake triples after Alberta announces its version of a vaccine passport
Restrictions for businesses screening for vaccination status start Monday

The demand for COVID-19 vaccinations tripled in Alberta on Thursday, the day after Premier Jason Kenney announced the province's version of a vaccine passport.

Alberta Health reported 28,158 doses were administered at Alberta Health Services clinics and pharmacies on Thursday compared to 9,750 on Wednesday.

Kenney announced the new restriction exemption program Wednesday night.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmozzznton/alberta-vaccinations-triple-1.6180529 ft

Before this pandemic hit, my younger sister ended up in ICU with cancer. I was impressed by the level of care and sheer amount of watchfulness that the single nurse gave to my sister. One nurse, one bed.That is where the best nurses are,the ones on the wards are pretty hit and miss. In Alberta it's now three patients to one ICU nurse.

Snidely Whiplash is at it again. Wish I could buy him for what he is worth and sell him for what he thinks he is worth.

It will be great when things are back to pre-pandemic levels of staffing and workload.

Someone drank the kool-aid

I think they are hooked up to an IV to be as blind to reality as they seem to be.

Where are we on the mortality rate now ? Last I read it was stated at 0.26%, but this was down south.

He’s an old man, terrified of his own mortality. You can’t reason with someone living in fear, they will look for any port in the storm.

You did for sure - the social media Kool-aid.

Does Steve have dementia

Here are the numbers in Alberta. There are 4.4 million people in the province and 200 people in ICU. Yes, 200.

I can't speak for the other 199 , but I do know of one man there in ICU with cancer, nothing to do with SARS-COV2.......

No doubt. All with covid, all unvaxxed, and all could have been OK if they had just done as the government told them. GD.

Oh yes. If only they had done what the government said was in their best interest. If only. And no one should be worried that a virus that has killed 0.06% of Alberta’s population has completely crippled its healthcare system. I wonder what one that kills 1% would do?

Hysterical old weak queen spreading silly fear porn .Your black face racist leader approves.

lol. How do you know they were unvaxxed? because captain sparkle socks told you?

Hey hysterical old anti science queen . How many months does the vax last? the ignorance is unbelievable.

Seems GD should have included an emoji to make his sarcasm clear.

Since I posted that last month, the situation continues. For an up to date picture, go here.

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html

Summary of COVID-19 cases across Canada and over time. Contains detailed data about the spread of the virus over time and in different regions of the country. Includes breakdowns by age and sex or gender. Provides an overview of hospitalizations and deaths, testing, variants of concern and exposures.

It is way worse than that. Dementia is excusable.

https://drtrozzi.com/2021/10/the-coming-pandemic-of-the-vaccinated/

Same capacity for logical thought processes and inability to make contact with reality. News says it’s true, then it’s true.

And Steve's dementia worsens. Just another useful idiot for Trudeau to spread fake news fear porn

bravo useful idiot Steve

Alberta reports 38 more COVID-19 deaths, 652 new cases Wednesday
Most deaths occurred over the Thanksgiving long weekend

Alberta public health officials are reporting 652 new COVID-19 cases. Thirty-eight more people have died from the illness.

Most of the people, anywhere from in their 30s to 90s, died over the long weekend. The number of deaths since the pandemic began is now 2,901.

The number of deaths reported Wednesday tie those announced on Jan. 12 for the most deaths reported in a single-day.

The rest here - https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-covid-19-update-1.6210072

Stevie why are you such a retard.

Prairies record country’s highest COVID-19 death rates
JAMES KELLER AND CARRIE TAIT

Thirteen Albertans died of COVID-19 on the first Sunday in October, another tragic but routine day during the fourth wave of the pandemic on the Prairies. A surge of infections in recent months has overwhelmed hospitals in Alberta and Saskatchewan, while also leaving those two provinces with the highest death rates of any other province.

One of the people who died on Oct. 3 was Jim Culham, an 85-year-old pastor from Castor, Alta., a small community located about a three-hour drive northeast of Calgary. A former missionary, social worker and hospital chaplain who married a nurse, he was well known and well liked in Castor with a reputation as caring, funny and gregarious.

“You talk about statistics and say, ‘So many people died today in Alberta.’ And then we realized that one of them was our dad,” said Jim’s son, Rod Culham, who lives in London, Ont., and was in Castor last week for his father’s funeral.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/can...d-countrys-highest-covid-19-death-rates/

So this article states 13 people in 4.4 million died in one day and the highlight example of those deaths was an 85 year old man with unknown health history( he was 85 and undoubtedly had at least a few comorbitities). It is not exactly the best supporting document to justify the need for vaccine passports and mandatory vaccination. I’m not saying a son losing a father isn’t sad, it is sad,I know from experience. But I am mature enough to understand that it is inevitable and I have come to terms with that. As you should. The virus has a cost, a governments response to the virus has a cost. Both need to be evaluated. Historically speaking, almost without exception once a right or liberty is given up it is never given back. You will die,as will I, the generations after us need not pay so dearly for unwillingness to accept that.

Quite honestly I wouldn't really call 2900 people dying in the last 18 months out of 4 million people a pandemic.

There is something strange about Mr. Redgwell. What's up? I had never heard of him until I came over to the Canada forum seeking information about getting across Canada on the Al-Can.

Let us not forget that Alberta also recorded the death of their youngest victim to covid. The death of an unvaccinated 14 year old was "entirely preventable", according to some vaccine advocates. The young man's sister disagrees with this and attributes his death to the stage 4 brain cancer he was diagnosed with in January 2021. She said, he tested positive for covid 2 days before his death. GD

https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-...dZa2oEQWxVN_0Hnw#pre-existing-conditions


https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-...huQsakZdZa2oEQWxVN_0Hnw#vaccine-outcomes


77.4% of COVID-19 deaths (1,059/1,369) since Jan 1, 2021 were unvaccinated **or diagnosed within two weeks from the first dose immunization date**

Shows what a joke these stats are but the mouth breathing goobers and Trudeau worshippers keep licking it up

It looks like the number of cases is dropping in Alberta. Good news.

This page on the CBC site covers all of Canada, but it's easy to find Alberta.

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/coronavirustracker/

Yeah Steve.

I have read his blog, seems like a nice enough guy just a bit too supportive of authority telling us to get experimental vaccines. Maybe in 5 years I will get vaccinated with an actual vaccine, not something that doesn't keep me from getting the virus or keep me from spreading it.

https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/alta-fa...or-reported-another-covid-case-1.5623489


This is what the criminals at Alberta Health Services have been doing all along. Friggin lying thru the teeth about all the numbers , the retard from the east is clueless as usual.

That's strange, Rick. I don't have a blog. I have a website. I don't talk about COVID or authorities of any kind there. I haven't told anyone to get vaccinated. It's www.303british.com .

Let's look at this thread. Here's my first post.



I was sad that Alberta was having a bad time with COVID. I never suggested that anyone get their shots in this thread. I just posted CBC and Alberta government website info. Most of it is statistics for the number of cases, deaths, etc.

It might be hard for some to accept, but Ottawa expects potential visitors to Canada to have their shots. Some folks have had their trips cancelled because of COVID. It's too bad, but those decisions are far above my pay grade.

But the people who responded were, for the most part, troublemakers. They don't post about hunting, fishing, shooting, etc. They post to stir the pot. They insult and berate. The same as the immature kids in a schoolyard. Some are angry that the government, where they work, etc. are forcing them to get vaccinated. They're angry, and they feel they have to lash out. Hey, I've got big shoulders.

Davy, he's recycled himself as someone else, suggested that a few guys come over here and cause trouble. Fine. They aren't bothering me. They shouldn't bother you either. The fact is, you are doing it too. I guess you want to hang with the cool kids. Post something hunting related. Or that has to do with Canada. After all, this is the Canada section.

If you enjoy making silly posts, have at it. It's the Internets.

Lots of “nice enough” people are willing to do some pretty nasty things once they are made uncomfortable or start to succumb to fear.

Steve is the personality type that would tell his govt that the neighbor is hiding a 14 year old jewish girl in their attic. Everyfracist govt needs its nice people/useful idiots to maintain control.

Thanks, both of you, for proving my point, yet again.

Sorry for calling your website a blog. I guess I meant to say too willing to believe government disseminated propaganda. Here in the US we are inundated with it and it seems like the CBC and the Alberta government put out the same propaganda disguised as information.

Rick, I read quite a bit. When I read differing points of view, they have to be convincing for me to change my mind. They have to offer a believable POV, backed with evidence. Nothing that I've seen so far has made me change my mind about Health Canada's views on COVID, or the treatments they suggest.

WRT COVID, I trust most doctors and scientists who studied and work in related fields. I also respect someone who is adaptable and open to changes in procedure. The example I use most often is Theresa Tam. She is Canada's chief public health officer. When COVID first appeared, she said that masks would not help the public and that there was no point wearing them. A short while later, in consultation with other doctors, she changed her position. She said that wearing masks was a good idea.

As a doctor, Tam is open to change. If she is to be trusted, change will be part of the mix.

WRT COVID, since I am not an infectious disease specialist, I will trust those who are, unless they give me a reason to stop. I will not listen to anyone who insults, swears or attempts to bully me into changing my mind. I go to a doctor for medical issues, not a barber or a truck driver. I do not believe any of the myriad conspiracy theories floating on the Internet.

I suspect that we will see more dissenters like the ones who posted above. They add nothing to any conversation. They enjoy bad mouthing or insulting others. It seems to give them pleasure.

You might have a different opinion, and I respect that. I appreciate that you chose not to name call or insult in an effort to convince me to change my mind.

That's exactly what most object too. They change the rules as they go as information is received. Nothing wrong with that but they should state they don't know all the facts and that approaches may change, They should qualify that their press releases and protocol initiatives may not be correct and could possibly be totally wrong and may exacerbate the problem. They should be open and honest and tell us they really don't know what they are doing, take gov't suggestions with a grain of salt and recognize them for what they are worth. Instead they make blanket statements of their opinions present them as facts in media releases getting it wrong as often as not. Then they wonder why people don't listen as they have created a credibility quagmire. People are tired of it and have tuned them out

One attribute of a credible scientist is that they are very cautious about making claims of fact and truth unless they are 100% sure. The medical “scientists” our governments have put in positions of authority are clearly not all that credible.

I would agree with that in a general sense, but there are situations where immediate action must be taken.

I believe that the medical community was under the gun - from COVID, the public and the government. They were expected to act quickly. A consensus was reached as to what should happen. Initially, there was no vaccine, they didn't know how it was transmitted and had a minimal understanding of COVID-19. They acted according to their training, making modifications as they went.

We don't know who was consulted or what was discussed. We only knew that infectious disease specialists and other individuals were dealing with it. With every pandemic, there is an after action report. There will be lessons learned.

I have actually taken graduate level immunology, cell physiology, microbiology, biochemistry, virology and a few credits shy of a minor in psychology. Just as importantly I have been a student of world history and a cursory history of medicine. The instant natural immunity was considered irrelevant the establishment leading the charge against this virus showed their hand, it was no longer about science.
You seem to have a pretty good grasp on the numbers, and in spite of this you wholeheartedly promote vaccine passports. You value unattainable levels of imagined safety over civil liberty. I’ll call it like I see it all day. It should be embarrassing for you to publicly proclaim the things you have here.

Do not think my desire for the safety of Canada's citizens is at odds with civil liberty. To date, they are working well together

Anyone who expects absolutes from medical professionals at a single point in time is unrealistic. We've never had a pandemic in modern times like this before, so of course their understanding and knowledge of this will evolve over time as you would expect.

Their knowledge and options have changed since this pandemic started but to say they don't know what they're doing because a year ago they were saying other things does not take into account that the knowledge base is growing and new things are being discovered constantly.

Most people would cut any field of science some slack over time but apparently there are folks who expect perfection right out of the gate on a situation that has never happened before. Totally unrealistic and certainly not fair.

Social media does not seem to have this problem.

There is no “ cutting of slack” when they openly deny or ignore basic immunology. They knew from the beginning, and I’m not speculating that they knew, that vaccine based immune response would be specific to one antigen( the s-antigen) and that natural immunity would be based on multiple antigens( 5+). This isn’t breaking news, they knew it from their college years. Nobody, anywhere that has this basic knowledge is surprised by the Study from Israel that shows natural immunity is much more effective at protecting from the delta variant because natural immunity has many ways to recognize the virus, vaccine based immunity only one.
I will give credit to the current vaccines that they do prevent people for the most part from getting seriously ill when they become infected. They do not stop the spread( vaccinated and unvaccinated people carry the same or nearly the same viral load and they obviously do not stop people from becoming infected. Requiring people to have a vaccine that does not stop the spread of a virus, which also does not prevent people from becoming ill is ridiculous. Limiting those people that have not had the vaccine from certain activities is also ridiculous, the only people effected is those individuals. And if you’re under retirement age and even moderately healthy your risk of serious health consequences from contracting Covid are so low as to approach zero in reality.
That’s the real world. And no, I don’t believe the government’s response in relation to public health is going well in Canada or the US. Mass populations have handed up their rights without resignation in order to escape a virus who’s effect will never actually be known because the data collected is beyond tainted.
Our need to be good citizens includes critical thinking, claiming ignorance because you “ just trust those experts” is intellectually lazy and reckless. And as I said before, embarrassing.

The problems I have with the vaccines is the money behind it being used by the medical establishment to push them knowing they are not actually vaccines and refusing to acknowledge that natural immunity is every bit as good or better than a hastily developed vaccine. It shows in Dr. Tam changing her opinion on masks. In fact the entire Chinese Communist Party virus fiasco is full of flip flops, Fauci being part of the virus's development, not to mention thousands of instances of the vaccines harming and killing people. And these people are far younger than the average age of death by virus. Which as far as I can discern is 78 years old. This and the continuous blending of cause of death of those who died with the CCP virus opposed to those who died of the virus. There is too much conflicted information out there to trust any government's recommendations and that includes the Trudeau run Canada.

Well your view on civil liberty might be different if it were your country where an election was compromised, the border and immigration laws are not being enforced to the tune of more than 1.7 million unvetted foreigners being allowed into the country in an attempt to bankrupt our social safety net, where the government is intentionally causing shortages and disrupting our supply lines, where said govt has fcked over it's allies in a stupid botched withdrawal from Afghanistan and armed our enemies the Taliban, where a woman was murdered at a protest over the stolen election and the officer who killed her is given a medal, where inflation in 9 months has risen more than 10%, and the defacto deflection is forcing vaccine mandates on our citizens. The .03 chance of dying from the virus is not important at all under our circumstances.

As a Canadian, I see more anger by American citizens for their governments in the media.

I suspect that you do not trust any organization's statistics, but a higher percentage of Americans are dying of COVID than are dying here*. 743,000 deaths in a population of 333 million vs 28,000 in a population of 38 million. After 18 months, it suggests that we may be handling it better. I doubt that the Canadian reaction will reach the level of anger seen in the US.

I do not believe trusting credentialed individuals is "intellectually lazy and reckless". Canadians are paying attention, asking questions and we are making our own decisions. It appears that you expect us to react the same way here as in the US. We have a different business model, I suppose.

* https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

On most of that, it is difficult for me to respond. I am not a US citizen, and have not seen some of what you say is happening.

Rest assured it is exactly what is happening, our and your media are all in on it. You didn't know of our border issues or the Afghan disaster? About Ashli Babbit? The inflation disaster we are starting to suffer under? The laws California has passed to make it impossible for shipping to be transferred to ground transportation? Our government is in full attack mode against us and our freedom.

As scientists, the need for expedient action is not mutually exclusive with the need to be cautious in our claims. It’s possible to say something like “we’re not sure yet if masks are beneficial or not, as the empirical evidence is inconclusive, but we believe that XYZ is the best path forward, so we’ll start with that. We reserve the right to change our conclusion as more data becomes available”. Instead we got something more like: “masks are ineffective”, then “no wait, they are effective”, and so on. This is not how a credible scientist approaches claims of truth and fact.

I do not recall her exact words, or the words of any of the staff. She could very well have said something to that effect, but I do not know. The problem with social media and places like this is many people play fast and loose with the facts. Sometimes, they repeat what they've read or heard elsewhere.

Edited to add:

I did a quick search. This video is from 2 years ago. At 18 seconds in she talks about the public wearing masks. She does say that they "can be flexible if we find any new evidence" WRT wearing a mask. In this interview, she did say that they would change if needed.

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1717905987907

They took away your freedom for work, worship and travel. And are currently working to make it as difficult as possible to choose what you deem appropriate in regards to your health. And you say blind trust in people with certain letters in front of their name is appropriate? It’s not, it’s lazy and it’s reckless. I’ve known many Canadians and none of them have that “ business model”.

Thanks for stopping by.

I wash my hands of this and feel an intense desire to do so.
Something is off.

That’s all fine and well, but the part I was focused on is the overly-strong factual claims rather than saying “we don’t know for sure yet”.

At 47 seconds in the video you posted: “putting a mask on an asymptomatic person is not beneficial, obviously”.

Are these actual n 95 masks or cheap ineffective non medical Chinese face diapers?

Just a wild ass uneducated guess here but the US with near 10 times higher population density on a smaller land mass would mean much more elbow rubbing contact among people. Would that not translate to a much higher occurrence of virus transmission and rapid spread.

That's what they thought at the time. It's impossible for me to say.

There have been times when what science thought was incontrovertible proved not to be so. The earth is flat. There were sea monsters that swallowed ships, etc. While what Tam said wasn't right, she did correct herself. I put this down to being accepting of change and modifying the message based on new information.

Might be a good idea to wait until the "science" has gotten through "evolving" and changing and modifying before rushing off into some ill considered medical concoction. Grave yards have a substantial number of medical oops in them. Those of us that didn't spend our lives saying ''yes sir captain'' aren't as prone to accept government edicts.

As a physicist, I am a member of the scientific community, and interact with other scientists on a daily basis. I'll say it again, one of the characteristics of every great scientist that I've ever met is that they are objective seekers of truth, and are hesitant to make a strong claim unless it's based on overwhelming evidence. Being in the public spotlight, as Tam is, subjects a person's statements to a higher-than-normal level of healthy scrutiny, and should make a person even more cautious about the claims that they make and upon which policy decisions are based.

Perhaps she should be, given that she’s with the government.

I wouldn’t call her a scientist. According to her bio, she’s a paediatric infectious disease specialist with expertise in immunization, emergency preparedness and global health security.

Being with the gov't is a strike against credibility all by itself. Being appointed by Trudeau is another strike. We all know how people climb the ranks of gov't and it has little to do with honesty or being capable in their field. The willingness to forsake conscience, rather preferring to tow gov't and party agendas is prerequisite to climbing the gov't ladder. She is just another political appointee.

She was caught in another lie. Lie after lie after lie. Govt officials, ultra wealthy caught again. and again and again not masking, traveling, not social distancing etc ; but the flat earth government science is settled and the dumb sheep ( Steve) keep believing lies begging for someone else to think for them, control them.

Alberta Health and CTV are reporting the number of deaths in Alberta attributed to COVID has now surpassed 3000. Link and graphs at link below.



The province now has 10,842 active cases and a seven-day daily average of 786 infections, as both figures continue their declines over the past week. Among all Albertans, 73.4 per cent have received one dose of vaccine and 66.2 per cent have received two or more shots.

Unvaccinated Albertans remain significantly more likely to suffer a severe outcome after contracting COVID-19, including hospitalization or death.

The next data update is scheduled for Thursday afternoon.

https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/alberta...s-adds-786-new-cases-wednesday-1.5631334

An Albertan reconciles happy memories with her unvaccinated father's death
'I did feel like I got hit in the stomach,' says Trudy Ballard
CBC Radio



excerpt from the story -

You hear these stories and I read his [obituary], which was so beautifully done; that he cared so deeply, that he was so community-minded and so well-read. And yet, he refused to be vaccinated. Why do you think that was?

We have a lot of thoughts on that and a lot of confusion, to be honest. It is quite heartbreaking for my brother and I.

Even though he's so well-read, I think he heard so many things on some media channels that were just not accurate, and he took those on — which was really surprising to us.

There's so much misinformation out there. Please try to find the real information and make the right choices. - Trudy Ballard

Did you try to change his mind?

I wrote to my dad and I asked him, "Would you for my sake — for your great-grandkids' sake and the sake of your grandkids — would you consider doing this?" And I listed a few things, and I pretty much pleaded with him.

He told me he loved me and that he respected me asking him this. But no, he would not change his mind.

Full story here - https://www.cbc.ca/radio/day6/mourn...er-unvaccinated-father-s-death-1.6212576

lol. what an ignorant clown. Trudeau loves c cowardly clowns like you.

Its obvious you're a very weak man , never accomplished anything of value in your life and never had to face any adversity in your life.

When you are losing an argument, resorting to person attack is the last ditch defense.

Numbers are skewed because they include deaths which occurred before there were any vaccines and during the time when long term care facilities were being hit particularly hard (largely due to infection brought in by staff and visitors). People continue to get sick and, in some cases, to die, because very little effort has been made to find effective treatments. Instead, the establishment has gone all in on the vaccines. These vaccines are turning out to be about as efficacious as normal saline and one can only hope they are as harmless. During the first year, most victims were people who were likely to have not lived out the year anyway and, in many, if not most cases, covid was not the actual cause of death. Alberta numbers are especially suspect after Deana Henshaw, their chief doctor, admitted to misreporting covid deaths. This happened after she was caught bleating on about the 14 year old boy who died of covid but who actually died of brain cancer, according to his sister. Henshaw apologized for lying and said they are not going to lie as blatantly going forward. Or, at least, doing a better job of it. The supporters of the government narrative were satisfied with this and gave her a pass. GD

https://youtu.be/HeSJWGSnN8A

Have a listen....
A new study done with 65 different countries involved, and lots of Counties in the USA .
All about the vaccines, and if they are working as planned

What an absolute load of crap. I have good friends and relatives on the front lines in Alberta right now. The MSM is lying as per usual. The truth is out there, you just have to have an IQ higher than 5 to sort it out.

We have a number of posters in the Canada section and elsewhere who do this constantly. They are incapable of participating in a meaningful discussion. As a result, they toss out insults. It is an attention getter and a mark of immaturity.

Some posters have more than one identity here. Because few people pay attention to them, they are compelled to create other identities.

WRT Alberta, or any other jurisdiction, I trust the doctors and scientists there, not the conspiracy theorists and other unqualified individuals who think that the government or the medical community is out to kill everyone.

To those who believe that Alberta Health is lying, I suggest that you contact them directly and call them on their "incorrect information". You can report back here and post their response. I am sure that everyone would like to hear what they say.
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I am hopeful that Alberta is on the mend. My SIL is waiting for surgery and COVID has caused delays.

Alberta reports 770 COVID-19 cases, gradual return of surgeries and procedures begins
CTV News Edmonton Staff

EDMONTON - Alberta reported 770 new cases of COVID-19 Thursday as pressure on the health care system starts to ease.

According to Alberta Health, the provincial positivity rate is approximately 6.5 per cent, after about 11,800 tests were completed. There are currently 10,434 active cases of COVID-19.

There 912 Albertans in hospital receiving treatment for COVID-19, including 201 in ICUs.

“We continue to see these numbers declining, but it's important to remember that this takes time and this trend could reverse quickly if we are not careful,” said Dr. Deena Hinshaw.

Across the province there are active alerts or outbreaks at 288 schools. Hinshaw said that at four of those schools, there were more than 10 cases of COVID-19 reported after individuals with COVID-19 while infectious attended.

Eight more deaths were reported Thursday, raising the provincial total to 3,014. The deaths ranged in age from people in their 30s to over 80.

More than 6.4 million vaccine doses have been administered as of Wednesday.

The rest here - https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/alberta-covid-19-update-on-thursday-afternoon-1.5632689

These days everything is conspiratorial.
I think it is a personality trait and we have those in our own family wrapped up in such a thing.
I am double vaxed, no misgivings about this choice and just want to do my part.
I just don't agree that the tiniest of injections will have a detrimental effect.
.Like I have said before, we washed up with leaded gasoline, handled lead daily , mercury on ocassion and survived food poisioning from restaurant food. ( many times)
I live in a coal mining valley, ingested tons of the stuff.
Feel pretty well in my middle 60's . I do stay very fit, however

The truth is coming out and it will continue...
https://www.americanthinker.com/art...37Ew8FNRQFUSfOH4hzSUuP6pODDQSelLyZ2IBLxE

A person may choose to believe everything Alberta Health says if they want but they have been caught. Just like other health authorities, they have been caught and confessed. The same thing has happened in BC and even in Ontario. The governments have admitted to skewing the stats and, occasionally, apologized for lying. Only BC's Bonnie Henry has steadfastly refused to acknowledge falsehoods; even when caught in the lie. GD

Sorry, that dog don't hunt, CB.

I've heard the theories for a few years now about COVID. There haven't been any truths that have come out, only stories spun by conspiracy theorists and others.

Big business concocted COVID.
Government is in cahoots with big business.
Aliens brought it to earth.
The Illuminati did it to reduce the human population and positively affect global warming.
The US accidentally released it into the general population instead of China, their original target.
The Chinese released it into the world to take down the US and its allies.
Bill Gates thought it up as part of his world domination plan.
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Here are a few of the things we've had happen in the past 100 years. There are others.

SARS CoV1 was with us for over two years.
The Hong Kong flu was around for a couple of years from 1968 until 1970.
The Spanish flu epidemic hung around for over two years.
Other things like MERS in the Middle East are ongoing. It's been a problem for six or seven years.

Plagues and outbreaks used to last a lot longer before medicine learned about the things like sterilizing instruments, washing food, vaccines and childhood inoculations.

excerpt from Pandemics Throughout History
Jocelyne Piret and Guy Boivin

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7874133/

You would have to live under a rock not to now that covid came from China. Whether intentional or not we will never know. You continue to ignore the lies our government has been telling us for two years now. Heres just two. #1 the vaccines are safe, and #2 ivermectin doesnt work. The evidence for ivermectin is overwhelming now, and according to the CDCs own data over 16,000 Americans have died from the vaccines. The evidence is right in front of you, but you will continue to ignore it.

You can shout it louder and say it more often, CB, but it doesn't change the fact that your conspiracy theories and suspicions are without foundation.

Prove it.

I don't need to. I use the science.

Honestly CB, since you don't like the science provided by Health Canada, the provinces, the territories, the US CDC, etc., you should be providing them with your theories/references. If what you give them is of value, they will consider it.

Just another Trudeau fear mongering porn clown. sad no one believes your government lies

please list Alberta's. 3 vaccine stats as they work differently

Stats for everyone with strong natural life long immunity in Alberta . (Shots work for about 6 to 8 months) How does Alberta test everyone for natural immunity? Where are these test sites Steve?


List a chart of all of those documented not to be vaccinated in Alberta

Please document how they scientifically accumulate and monitor these stats every week

thanks

The well documented science states your immunity after two shots does does protect you from mutations and last about 6 months.

What next? Do the shots act like the measles, small pox and polio vaccines? lol

Problem with the science in this case is that the scientific opinions keep changing and our main scientist has been caught lying his ass off. If the science and the vaccines work why don't they work? And why is social media suppressing the July 27, 2015 report from the U.S. NIH published and disseminated in PubMed.gov (Dr. Faucci's org.) that clearly warns us about the danger of imperfect vaccines turning a less harmful virus into a lethal variant. Read it yourself and then try to post it on Facebook. It will be refused as abusive. Try to post on Fakebook the news that 750 GE employees in Ohio walked out over vaccine mandates. It will be rejected as abusive. I understand you are a smart man but you are being denied or ignoring full information. That might be why you believe yourself to be informed which you are clearly not. Check out Holmes county Ohio and you will find they have the lowest vaccination rate and the lowest Corona-19 rate in the state. It won't hurt you to question your own wisdom. If you are correct in all you espouse it will stand being questioned.

While I agree with you Hastings I think you are being a bit generous with the "smart man" comment. Steve cant answer your questions and he wont even try. I just got back from 6 weeks of guiding hunters and the restrictions are proving to be a killer for the hunting and fishing industry. Every outfitter i know lost 10-20% of their bookings because the clients didnt want to get the jab. Then the fact that they have to have another test before they can leave is a hurdle too. A positive test means a 14-day hotel stay. Its just to risky for a lot of people when they can eat their deposit and go to Alaska without all that baggage. Two of the guys I guided had gotten covid AFTER being double vaxxed, so it certainly doesnt stop you from getting it.

As for the safety concerns I see Iceland stopped giving Moderna to anyone. That should raise some questions by our own health officials but its obvious now that they are under strict orders to toe the line...

Let’s be clear about a few things, CB. First, Hastings didn’t ask me any questions. Second, the hunters that you guided have nothing to do with what is being discussed.

Your feeble attempts to stir the pot or add anything of value to this thread have fallen short again.

Hastings, as we go through the pandemic, the prevention and treatment recommendations will change.

The medical community learns and adapts. Because COVID-19 was new to them, they based prevention and treatment on existing methodology. Their knowledge of COVID-19 continues to grow, and treatments will evolve. It is their area of expertise, after all.

You lost all credibility with most on here a long time ago. You parrot the government, and believe everything you hear on MSM. You would do well to take Hastings advice, but thats not going to happen. The hunters i guided are just another bit of evidence that the vaccines are failing, and there is absolutely no reason to mandate a vaccine that doesnt stop you from getting or spreading covid. Anyone with any common sense can see that. People are dying because your government is refusing to use drugs that are proven to lower mortality rates by as much as 90%. You refuse to acknowledge the science, and have nothing to back up your claims. The only thing you add to any conversation is your feeble attempt to be seen as an authoritative figure on this section of the fire. News flash for ya, you're not.

yukon254: My wife and I had planned to add thousands of U.S. dollars to Canada this past August. Much to our disappointment we couldn't get in. So we caught a plane ride over Canada and spent the money in Alaska. Multiply that by many thousands and Canada has been hurt tremendously. All trying to keep out a relatively mild disease that is already in Canada. I know some rural Canadians and they seem like really good folks. I'm sure you have the same situation we do. People detached from our reality are running your country.

You cannot accept other points of view, so you resort to insults.

Common sense tells me to look to the experts, not the fringe groups or attention seekers. You said, "People are dying because your government is refusing to use drugs that are proven to lower mortality rates." It's our government, not mine.

On 5 Oct 21, Alberta Health Services posted an update on Ivermectin use. This is their conclusion. It is not the first time they have examined this drug. Any time that new evidence is found, it is revisited.

The AHS Scientific Advisory Group (SAG) and the COVID-19 Therapeutics Working Group continue to monitor new evidence on ivermectin. After review there continues to be insufficient evidence of benefit, and the previous recommendations continue to be upheld:

At this time, ivermectin should not be prescribed or taken to prevent or treat COVID-19 (outside of a clinical trial, although SAG is currently not aware of ongoing trials in Alberta).

https://www.albertahealthservices.c...reatment-and-prevention-rapid-review.pdf

It is not me who refuses to acknowledge the science. People are now showing up at hospitals because they are poisoning themselves using Ivermectin.

My wife and myself caught Covid.
That SOB was starting to go into my lungs, started on Ivermectin and it stopped the progression into my lungs the very next day.
Continued taking Ivermectin along with Vitamin D, C, and Zinc for the next 3 days, as did the wife.
The infection never did get into the Wife's lungs after starting on Ivermectin
There is no doubt in my mind that the Ivermectin stopped the Covid from spreading any further.
So ya the Government can kiss my ass with their, OH PLEASE DON"T USE IVERMECTIN, IT DOESN'T WORK BULLSHIT.

Steve,

An important detail to point out here, is that these “experts” you refer to are not doing any science. They are giving their interpretation and overview, whether justified or not, of the science. If you want to go straight to the source, the best you can do is to familiarize yourself with the body of peer-reviewed publications in scientific journals of repute (not all journals are well-respected in the scientific community). And as someone who has authored multiple peer-reviewed publications, I can tell you that even peer-reviewed science published in good journals is not flawless.

I agree that not everyone is doing the research. The information is collected and given to organizations like Health Canada. In this case, it is released by Dr. Tam. I am aware that she does not perform any of the work. There are others who collect information, studies and statistics for her and her group to analyze and present to the government and the public.

When I go searching for the latest information about COVID, I check organizations like WHO, the CDC, Health Canada and others. I also sift through the less travelled stuff. For example, the Uttar Pradesh story. The western press is reporting the benefits India saw because of ivermectin. The Indian government has removed it from their clinical guidelines however.

India, Canada, the world's universities and others have the various studies available for our review, but we expect a synopsis. It's easier to understand and digest.

https://headlinehealth.com/india-removes-ivermectin-from-covid-clinical-guidelines/

It’s important to understand that governments, NGOs, and even peer-reviewed scientific authors, are all subject to their own biases, regardless of claims to the contrary of complete objectivity.

Agreed. When I see a majority of qualified individuals agreeing on something, I trust in that however. It doesn't mean that new evidence cannot be discovered and brought to their attention for review in the future. That's part of the process.

WRT outlines, when I was stationed in Comox, I was employed as a flight safety investigator. Part of my job was examining flight incidents and accidents to determine cause(s). Sometimes, that involved going to experts for their analysis of evidence that was collected. These often took months to complete. The reports were fired up the chain for review. Often, my boss would come to me and say something like, "Bottom line, was there a person responsible for this, or was it something else?" He wanted a brief synopsis.

Humans like summaries and they are the easiest to use for people like myself who are not medical scientists.

The problem is that there is no way to know what the majority of qualified individuals think, because regular people don't have access to the thoughts and position of each qualified individual. A lot of people are deceived using this "98% of scientists agree" rhetoric that was also seen when governments were strongly pushing the global warming agenda. In science we don't really talk about a "majority of qualified individuals agreeing", instead we talk about the body of evidence. What does the literature say, what do most credible, peer-reviewed publications conclude, etc.

The problem with the credibility of synopses and overviews comes up when the person delivering the synopsis has a subjective bias for one outcome or another, or has some ulterior motive, and that is really what is called into question when we discover the relationships and ties between certain "qualified authorities" and organizations that are known to be strongly biased.

Consensus is rarely achieved. When scientific evidence is delivered to persons outside of that community, synopses are what most people find easiest to understand.

The veracity of any information has to be judged by the individual when they are presented with it. Generally, that is accomplished by asking who or what the source is. For example, most people trust Health Canada. But like the scientific community, consensus with the public is rare too. For that reason, as a member of the public, I trust the information given to me if that view is shared by a majority of agencies. In the case of COVID, that would be WHO, CDC, Health Canada and some European agencies. They generally site the source(s) of their information.

The public uses a different standard to judge truth and honesty - a preponderance of the evidence. The public is not trained to examine scientific data, so they trust those who studied and are qualified to work in that field. If the majority of agencies/persons say, "get vaccinated", most people will follow that advice.

We are humans. Bias always enters into things. The public does the best it can to make an informed decision.

Steve has zero background in science. Zero

Yet lectures others others on the scientific method who are much more educated and some have actual backgrounds in science

What a sad scared old man who projects his own biases, fears ignorances on others.

The science experts banned ivermectin and stated it had no anti viral properties. Maybe Dr Steve can give us his resrarch on this. Lol

https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/local/calgary/2021/8/31/1_5568169.amp.html


And the cowardly idiots like the expert believe the government

You are correct. Ive been in the outfitting industry my entire life. I have a lot of contacts and repeat clients. What you describe is happening at staggering rates. Now that hunting season here in the north is coming to a close, Im seeing dozens of FB posts of longtime clients who went to Alaska instead of spending their money in Canada. I dont blame them. It's a huge hassle and it could get very costly should you test positive on the return trip. Our clients have to test before boarding the plane in Vancouver. Should they test positive, they are required to spend 14-days in a hotel. Thats a huge risk in time and money. Now they are talking about booster shots because the first two start to wane after 6-months. Should they make the boosters mandatory, ( and I think its a certainty that they will) then its all over. Outfitters are talking about it, and they know any booster requirement will kill their business.

I dont understand the mentality that some exhibit in regards to the mandatory vaccine passports. We know for certain that the vaccines dont stop people from getting or spreading the virus, so why does it matter who takes it or doesnt?? Steve is vaccinated, Im not. Im no more of a danger to him than another vaccinated individual since that individual can still get covid and still spread covid. Actually some studies are showing vaccinated people can carry up to twice the viral load that unvaccinated people can. Its also important to remember that Asymptomatic people cant spread the virus.

A big issue here is that we are in uncharted waters and there is a hard push from governments and the scientists they finance to toe the party line on vaccines and no move whatsoever to require China to indemnify the rest of the world for the harm that most certainly was caused by their misdoings whether intentional or not. There is also a hard push from governments and the scientists they sponsor to discredit and even vilify the use of known inexpensive and proven safe drugs such as ivermectin and hydroxy. Drugs which by the way have been in use for decades by hundreds of MILLIONS of humans and are known harmless to humans absent a large overdose. The very worst thing that will happen with these drugs is that sometimes they do not work. There is a huge push to blacklist any scientist or doctor that steps out of line. If I were willing to believe that the powers that be have no nefarious motives (which I am not) they certainly are not willing to accept that their vaccines very well may be harmful if not deadly and they are not willing to allow cheap remedies a fair trial. I would think that even if they do believe in these vaccines they would welcome a large control group that is voluntarily accepting the risk of being unvaccinated. It seems they would concern themselves that these imperfect vaccines might do exactly what their own NIH PubMed.gov publication warned about in 2015 which is to spawn deadly variants as the virus works its way around the imperfect immunity. People who think and read and understand the evils of group think and herd mentality are right to be skeptical. This ain't the army and we haven't sworn to die for some commander.

I canceled my hunt to Alberta this year and last year plus fishing trips to Saskatchewan. First time in 25 years have not gone north

shame

"Canada is run by a fascist black faces surfer boy. Tam, the so called "Top Doctor" isn't even licensed in public health in Canada, its from HK. the health minister Hajdu is a graphics designer.They all spent the last 6 years virtue signalling, race baiting, gas lighting and accusing all other non Liberals as racists. Trudeau declared a reconciliation holiday for FN's but decided going surfing on that day was a good idea.They failed at their own mantra, my body my choice. Forced legislation that its a crime if you miss gender someone, but shaming the un vaxxed is a good thing, medical apartheid is a good thing. Turning on your family and friends is a good thing.In Canada pedophiles, child molesters, abusers have rights and their privacy is protected, non vaxxed like the Jews in Germany 1933 are all disease carriers. Must be shunned and not allowed to participate in normal life. This was the plan as Trudeau himself stated this is the new normal and its not a conspiracy theory. Before it was a real global pandemic he parroted Gates and told us our lives cant return to normal without a vaccine. they are sticking to plan.Canada is a toletarian state run by a narcissist black faced child. His Liberal caucus is a cult. And the supreme court of Canada is non existent. They have more than doubled the national debt with no end in sight, Canada has gone from the top of the G7 to the bottom. The finance minister had to quit because he was caught with the WE cult they are all involved with. He was replaced by Freeland, Canada's deputy PM who is a neo nazi collaborator from a Ukrainian Chomiak Nazi family who escaped Nurenburg and ran to Canada. Her grand father was Hitlers propagandist in Poland and the Ukraine in WW2."

Sad, but true

good post. And the uneducated dummies lap their schit up. Ask Dr Steve to post up more of their lies

Ontario slowly regaining sanity....better late than never........

Ontario Releases Plan to Safely Reopen Ontario and Manage COVID-19 for the Long-Term

https://news.ontario.ca/en/release/...io-and-manage-covid-19-for-the-long-term

there's going to be a spike again when people are stuck indoors, the virus mutates again this winter and their vaxxes wear off.


Shame folks aren't more proactive in their own health and think endless boosters ( controlled sheep) are the answer.

Hoping this grows legs.......

Open Letter to RCMP Commissioner Brenda Lucki

https://mounties4freedom.ca/?fbclid=IwAR175_CaPDo2cc3lZ1EfEm1RmGyGXGtGjb5pOcfYMO4iec-FPmo0JVvgvGw

Okay, because you asked, how are things in Alberta today? This is what's being reported. Guardedly optimistic.
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A total of 3,026 Albertans have died of COVID, with 12 new deaths reported Friday

Alberta Health Services says that its scientific advisory group has updated its review into using ivermectin to treat COVID-19. AHS said existing studies have problems and the available evidence doesn't deem it safe.

Alberta is reporting an R-value below 1. The R-value is the average number of COVID-19 infections transmitted by each diagnosed case.
An R-value below 1 means transmission is no longer growing. Provincewide, the R-value for Oct. 11 to Oct. 17 was 0.85, with a confidence interval between 0.83 and 0.88.

Starting Oct. 25, Albertans aged 12 and older will need to provide proof of full vaccination — two COVID-19 vaccine doses — to access restaurants, movies, sporting events and other businesses provincewide operating under the province's Restrictions Exemption Program.

People who are not fully vaccinated can still opt to provide a privately-paid negative COVID-19 test from within the previous 72 hours or valid proof of a medical exemption.

About 92 per cent of all staff at Alberta Health Services have submitted proof they have had two doses of COVID-19 vaccinations as required under a policy introduced in August, Yiu told a news conference on Oct. 19.

Seven per cent of staff have yet to submit proof of vaccination, while less than one per cent — about 1,200 staffers — have requested accommodation on medical or religious grounds.

Yiu said 61 employees have resigned their positions specifically because of the vaccination policy. That includes 31 staffers in clinical roles; 11 of them are registered nurses.

66.6 per cent of the province's total population have received two doses of a COVID-19 vaccine


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-covid-coronavirus-october-24-1.6223142

"A total of 3,026 Albertans have died of COVID, with 12 new deaths reported Friday"

From COVID or with COVID ?? Do they even differentiate ??

How many died or were euthanized in care homes....??

A young boy of about 13 was counted as a covid death until his family threw a fit and threatened to sue. Poor kid had brain cancer, yet was counted as covid death just because he tested positive.

My father told me of his father telling of whole families dyeing from the Spanish flu.

Yes, pandemics are one of Mother Nature's population controls.

Steve, you misspelled Plandemic again.......

With a mortality rate of less the .5% ......???

The population control is the spike protein gene therapy people are being forced to take......

Now they want to shoot this [bleep] in little children......sheer madness.....

Write your MP, Dave.

Lots of truth to that statement. Data coming out of Israel is now showing vaccinated peoples chances of having severe cases and or death, 6-7 months post vaccine, are much higher than unvaccinated people.... Kinda sounds like ADE is starting to show up, just like many doctors predicted it would, including Dr Malone, one of the primary inventors of the MRNA technology.

Sorry, science disagrees.

Prove it

WHO. CDC. Health Canada. etc.

Until such time as science changes their collect mind, these and other organizations win.

Good luck

Actually, the $cience disagrees, the truth is an entirely different matter.

Drug Companies Don’t Fund The Media! Stop Asking!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5Y3wrzS_Eo

There needs to be a distinction made between settled science and science theory. We are not operating on proven science. Gov't officials are making policy based on theories. That doesn't work out so well sometimes.

There is a heap of difference between settled science and the speculation we are getting along with the willful ignoring of helpful medications already available and proven safe. I can't quite grasp why there are no full speed ahead trials with hydroxy and ivermectin.

Actually there have been almost 30 RCT on ivermectin and covid to date. RCT trials are the gold standard in medicine.

That is not science.

No, they are organizations. Organizations that have the scientific studies and employ qualified people, who interpret the results for doctors and the public.

Of course, you could rely on the interpretations and scientific studies conducted by the posters here.

Or you could get on Google Scholar and read the research "straight from the horses mouth".

Yes, but publications for laymen are usually easier for everyone to understand.

Articles like these are best for the general public.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/...in-for-covid-despite-a-lack-of-evidence/

Open letter from a group of BC doctors...

https://thedaily.ca/news/2021/09/12...2iPhzGiyhczdLuGOsoj5L19YULJEdzg4QPKj6AtM

Doesn’t matter.

Sure it does

Everything you need to know about COVID-19 in Alberta on Tuesday, Oct. 26 from CBC

3,051 Albertans have died of COVID, with 25 new deaths reported Monday

If you are planning a trip to Alberta, you must have your shots.

Alberta reported 1,592 new cases of COVID-19 over the weekend:
709 new cases on Friday out of 10,798 tests.
515 new cases on Saturday out of 8,690 tests.
368 new cases on Sunday out of 6,413 tests.
The positivity rate was 6.4 per cent.
The total number of active cases in Alberta is 9,481.
Since the pandemic began, 3,051 Albertans have died of COVID, with 25 new deaths reported Monday.
Alberta has seen a drop in known active COVID-19 cases since the start of October, when there were 20planning a visit to Alberta, you must have received ,215. But federal data shows Alberta still leads the country by a large margin.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-covid-coronavirus-october-26-1.6225189

no truth to that.My wife just came back from Alberta two days ago and she aint vaxxed and nobody asked to see anything. Were leaving tomorrow for the US and will go through Alberta without a vax passport.....want me to send you pictures??

Nope.

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

Poor Steve, trying the best he can to be relevant at something. Keep trying, you're doing good!

https://rumble.com/vo6chr-viral-imm...fxquK6ve1nkZKTOVCdYg2b_6-2jUb5yZLGrImY9U

Dr. Bridle will have his theory reviewed by his peers, if they believe he has something important to say. Until then, the world waits. And using rumble.com?

In the meantime,

From 1941 to 1944, in approximately 2 1/2 years, 407,300 US servicemen died fighting for freedom in WWII.

In 19 months, over 760,000 people have died from COVID in the US. That's almost twice the number that died in WWII, in half the time. We honour the fallen. We are saddened by their passing. I think the 760,000 should be remembered as well.

The real story is that at least 85% of those people didnt have to die...

And a whole bunch of those 760k died WITH Covid, not FROM it. Big difference.

When the lies start with the CDC and then are confirmed by the CDC it’s not really science. The country’s with high vat rates are starting over with new outbreaks. Oh oh time for a booster. NOT! Edk

I don't he likes the truth. Doesn't seem amenable to a serious analysis of this situation. I wonder if he got vaccinated and now is a bit scared. I hope he is right about "vaccine" efficacy and safety but it apparently is not safe or effective.

And the insanity is about to get worse in Ontario...
https://tnc.news/2021/10/25/ottawa-...gqNBZtb1YSzyx_XYMUmco1b1K2dCg3FYXyf_fss4

Exactly. Thank you.

The state of Florida that has been fighting Biden’s mandates now shows the lowest infection rate. Hmmm. Interesting. Edk

They didn't listen to the Canadian or U.S. experts. Common sense prevailed over panic.

Let's keep checking those stats as we go.

30 facts you NEED to know: Your Covid Cribsheet

https://off-guardian.org/2021/09/22/30-facts-you-need-to-know-your-covid-cribsheet/

Ontario won’t force vaccines on hospital workers because of potential for staffing shortages and surgery delays

https://www.thestar.com/politics/pr...-on-hospital-workers-doug-ford-says.html