North of Lake of the Woods. Canada Air already cancelled flight to Winnipeg. Any chance this trip might still happen?

It’s gonna be close. My first guests show up May 31.

My buddies and I have already cancelled our early May trip. First time in about 35 years. We’re all getting older, one fella has bad COPD so he’s already scared schitless.

We hope to make a walleye trip to one buddy’s cottage mid-June.

I'm wondering when making a trip will be legal as well.

Our first guests are due to arrive May 29...Every day things are looking better, but we still just dont know.

Richard, I know this isn't the answer you're looking for, but here is my $0.02.

Seems Canada, has flattened the "Covid curve" & are on the decrease.

USA is still heading the wrong way.

I can't see us, opening our borders to US citizens, or even people traveling through the US & risking another spike !

Sorry.

Hard to tell what restrictions may be imposed on Iowa residents since their governor refuses to impose restrictions on the residents. The governor seems to think she knows more than the scientists. I guess she is not alone since I understand 4 other governors share her stance. Seems to me there is no reason for Canadians to encourage visits from any of the 5 states since they do not want to cooperate in trying to stop the progression of the virus.

Jim

It may come down to a showdown between each country's leaders. Trudeau just a few minutes ago said it will be "many weeks" until they are ready to open back up. I have not been to a hunt or fishing camp in Canada that was owned or employed big Trudeau fans. Thus, while summer fishing trips are extreme social distancing relative to normal life in Vancouver or Quebec, he won't be motivated to help the rural types of tourism.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6826929/coronavirus-trudeau-economy-and-canada-u-s-border/

My trip has us crossing the border on 6/5. This is year 47 consecutive and we are already talking about a fall option if necessary. However, that removes the school-aged kids from the trip and that would be a huge loss.

When Trudeau speaks ‘many weeks’ might not be a measurement in time.
It might take a phone call from Trump—he conquered the country once before doing that.
I just watched Trump on TV—looks like Wyoming, Montana and North Dakota gonna be open for buisness as soon as tomorrow. California and Washington State not long after. Lots of talk about protocols and phases but if we don’t get a big spike in death rates the lockdown gonna fall apart pretty fast.

The Quarantine Act has been invoked. This means even Canadians coming home must be able to present a 14 day self isolation plan. This is a legal document . I don't see this being changed any time soon. This was pushed through a reluctant federal government by popular demand. It has huge support. I would guess +85% . Sorry.

Downwind—thank you—I did not know that. I do know lots of local people who don’t want any Americans coming here.

I just finished reading the Quarantine Act—it was amended on March the 17 but it doesn’t seem there is a time frame so I guess it would take an ‘Order in Council’ to close it. What a Draconian piece of Legislation.
Only thing worse would be Emergencies Act.

It might be a legal document, but nobody is following it; here or in northern BC. Every day here there are more and more people out and about. Wont be long and the dam will break and that will be that.

Local newspaper made a big deal outta a house party in Sioux Lookout—somebody got a $750 fine for too many people in a residence.
-12 here this morning still pretty much winter but when weather gets a little nicer I can guess what’s gonna happen.
My buddy from Wisconsin says he’s been checked twice by the OPP to make sure he hasn’t been out and about—thing about that is I text with him even in Summer because his place is so hard to get to.

Any person entering Ontario now has an automatic 14 day quarantine stay. Sorry to say, but it does look like your trip will be cancelled if it hasn't already. Outfitter not contacted you Blair?

I'm finding the closing of the border annoying, I live only 27 blocks off the border and use to get things shipped to the border town on the other side. One of the places was called Ship Happens, chuckle. The same things were cheaper in the States. Shipping cost were about half with no brokerage fees. UPS has horrendous brokerage fees.

At Vancouver International airport, They had plane loads of recued returnees, only 14 were forced to be put up in a hotel. What really raised the ire were the snowbirds returning, they had been politely asked to go directly home and self isolate . Instead they were stopping at grocery stores and shopping. When word got out that was a np-no, they hiding the motorhomes behind the stores. The Quarantine Act followed quickly. The Aussies early in the game brought in their own Quarantine Act, in fact placing them on an island and look at their very low rates.

USA & Canada just announced another 30 days of border restrictions, & the 14 day self isolation to still apply !

Hey Paul—I was in the bush for a couple of days —gotta guy here trying to finish off his beaver quota—so I didn’t see this announcement until this morning. Evidently the Quarantine Act has an expiry date and had to be extended. As stated it was extended another 30 days. As I read it the border would open up on May 19 unless it is extended further—which is entirely possible depending on what happens with the Kung Flu. That would put the opening on Monday of Victoria Day weekend. Except for a few Rainbow fishermen along the North Shore we don’t see many tourists until Memorial Day anyway.
I honestly don’t know what is gonna happen in the next 30 days—on the medical front it ain’t bad here locally so it could get worse—it could get better also. One thing for sure on the economic front it is only going to get worse the longer this lockdown goes on.

nothing recent. Guess I need to make a call

They have extended the border closing for another 30 days. In Canada, the borders are a federal jurisdiction . The provinces ,like states, handle health, so lock downs and social distancing are provincial orders.

Most of the provincial leaders have been forthright, they have been saying months, by that they mean lockdown . Our big local fair, the PNE, is a no go, it's at the end of August.

Karl, my take away was;

Yes May 19th, but still + 14 days self isolation ??

Hopefully, I'm wrong.

Camps up here are going bat$hit crazy with worry & cash flow issues !

We may be lucky to make it up by Canada Day.

Paul, is the fishing contest called off?

Assuming that you mean the Dryden walleye masters Richard ?

Yes, I believe the Ontario MNR has requested all "fishing derbies" be cancelled for this season.

That's not all bad, I've never entered one, and I think they kill of a lot of walleyes.

No way the US/Can border will be closed for months. Not going to happen. There will be to much pressure from both sides of the line. People have to work in order to eat. The oil industry in Alberta is taking a huge hit, the lumber industry in BC is next. The damage that is being done by all these lockdowns wont be easy to turn around if we opened up tomorrow.....a few months from now it would be impossible and we would be in a depression that most economists say would take decades to get out of.

Science is proving that this virus is not as deadly as they first thought. In one prison in Ohio for example only 5% of inmates that tested positive even showed symptoms. The real mortality rate is falling every day. It killed a relative of mine so I know it can kill....but the reality is that its not as deadly as we were led to believe in the beginning.

I disagree, to large extent, the border closure will remain as long as you have NYC type scenes . A poll put wait until 2 weeks with no new cases at 71% , 17% for a vaccine. Of course if we had complete and accurate testing, it would be a game changer. The antibody teat they have now is good enough a population survey, but not on an individual basis.

Deadly is very age related. The UK was late in the lockdown, so you can get some good numbers on rates, an 80%, 20% split. with 20% getting seriously sick. That 20% spits down into hospitalized, ICU and death. Since I would fall into the 20%. I consider it serious.

As far as the oil patch, I don't think there is much the government can do .

My sympathies to all the fishing camps that are going into their season with such uncertainty. We are all geared up to drive north if given the go ahead, but the Canadian decision makers don't have a choice but to be very careful. While the statistics of COVID-19 are looking more favorable, Canada has far less ICU beds and ventilators per capita than the United States. Thus, a flare up after re-opening business and the border would lead to more lost lives there. As rapidly as the testing is being rolled out, I would not be surprised if they were to do limited testing at the border depending on each individual's destination. For example, going camping and fishing in a provincial park is less likely to spread the virus than going to a mall in Winnipeg.

The problem is that's not just the tourism businesses that are suffering....its the entire economy. They are going to have to make some serious decisions soon or there wont be anything left to open up....thats just the cold hard reality. The information I've seen doesn't show an 80-20 split, but whatever the numbers are maybe those at higher risk will have to isolate themselves while the country gets back to work.

The feds certainly could help the oil patch, how about fast track the pipelines they've been holding up since Justine got elected.......people seem to think the Govt can solve all their problems but the fact is all these social programs cost money. Money the Govt gets from taxpayers. Take taxpayers out of the equation and where is the money going to come from??

I think they are looking at what FDR did during the Great Depression, not what Mackenzie King did , or more to point didn't. We will be paying for this for years to come there is no doubt. Oil patch: They had already bought a pipeline and were pushing it ahead as fast as the courts would allow. If they had refined the oil in Alberta, , they wouldn't have had that problem. But that is in the past.. Tar sands oil , WCS, was trading at - $3.81 when I checked this morning, Ouch. It costs over $20 to make it. WCS prices are complicated, but that still way below cost. TECK pulled out of a tar sands project. I worked for a contractor working for TECK, those old placer miners were hard nosed with very sharp pencils. If they thought there was no future in tar sands, I would question putting money into it. We have to as Canadians find ways to keep food on the table and roofs over the heads. Stay safe

I had two trips planned to Canada this summer. The first was near Sioux Lookout in early June. That was is already cancelled. The second is for northern Manitoba in late July. I'm still hopeful for that one. I know a lot of people have suffered greatly from the virus, so I feel a bit selfish worrying about big pike. Nonetheless, I do.

https://www.gov.mb.ca/covid19/restoring/approach.html#initial

This doesn't look good for June trips.

Border closed until at least June 21st to non-essential travel. What really suprised me was he number of my local aquaintces who are fine with this.

In all of Northwestern Ontario—79 cases—9 hospitalized—1 death. The death was a 41 year old man who had cancer. No new cases the last few days.

Meanwhile there is a ton of small businesses that have died.

I'm pretty sure the border closure will be extended further than June 21. Some articles indicate several months is likely. I guess I better not use my points on Wyoming antelope, too risky to gamble the border opens again.