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Posted By: splattermatic Choice of new lab pup ? - 08/21/21
My Traps been gone a year, yesterday. His breeder has approached me with litter pick of 3 litters.
This pairing is my choice, whatta ya think ?
Sire.
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Dam
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Hope I put them together right.

Call name is going to be Finn.
Will be a good sized yellow.

Figures, got them mixed up. You all can figure it out..
Posted By: 43Shooter Re: Choice of new lab pup ? - 08/21/21
Looks like with that kind of pedigree it would be hard to go wrong. IMO most of them are as good as the owners commitment to raise them right. Based on your experience with Trap, whichever pup you pick will be a lucky dog.
Posted By: patbrennan Re: Choice of new lab pup ? - 08/22/21
From what I can see in the pic the dam is a very nicely put together dog.
The question is rhetorical - we all know you've already made up your mind smile

Good luck and enjoy your new bud when you pick him/her out and take home.
Haven't heard if she is pregnant yet ?
I'm hoping so ....
The breeder will pick for me. She had changed up a dog I was going to buy, for Trap. She got to know me some, while waiting for the other dog, and knowing her dogs, suggested Trap. Said we would be a better fit.
She was sooooo correct !!!
I will trust her to watch the pups, and pick one that she thinks will be what I want.
Finn, will fly out of Onalaska, Wa., and I might have a Christmas puppy.
Georgia is pregnant !!
Hopefully there are males in the litter.....
If all goes well, I'll be a dad of a new yellow pup around Christmas !!

His call name will be Fin.

He's got some tall boots to fill after Trap.
I will do my best to get him to be the best he can be.
Skip pedigree #1.....in the grandparents line you DON'T breed chocolate and yellow together, Two recessive color genes. Always breed back to black with a black female that is black or chocolate factored.

Pedigree #2 is what you want. In that pedigree is 2XNFC Candlewoods Tanks Alot ( Call name Lottie). I saw that bitch in training with Mike Lardy. Mike said she was the only female he had ever trained with the drive of a male lab. In the late 90's "Lottie" was sold to a women in Pittsburg. Pa with the last name of Swindle for $250,000, the MOST ever....ever paid for a field trial dog. As an example "NFC2xAFC Ebonstar Lean Mac" (Max) was purchased for $80,000...he was the most handsome black lab I ever saw. I have pictures of Max some where in my dog album.
I don't think this breeding will produce any Dudley's because of the chocolate and yellow mix.
Keeper is a great looking, big, guy.
Honey is a full sister of my Trap. Great Grand PA is Lean Mac.
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I favored "Chocolate Dogs". Had quick a few from....NFC/AFC Storms Riptide Star MH



http://www.riverroadretriever.com/famous-labradors-nfc-afc-storms-riptide-star-rascal/
I don't like chocolate labs.
Posted By: 79S Re: Choice of new lab pup ? - 09/20/21
Originally Posted by splattermatic
I don't like chocolate labs.


Why?
Originally Posted by splattermatic
I don't like chocolate labs.


Your are not alone, 98% of retriever competitors would never even have a miniscule thought of wasting their time
on a "Brown dog". And they are not wrong. Having 3 color choices of labs I picked "Chocolate", In doing so I followed "Storms Riptide Star" working career since he was qualified all age wanting the best gene pool available
knowing the challenges and perception of chocolate dogs in the field.

As a follow up their is NOT ONE chocolate dog in Rascals pedigree, yet two brown dogs in his litter. I have also owned and trained all three colors of labs that I owned.

Yet in my mind, I wouldn't EVER...ever consider a Golden, or Chessie or Flat Coat.
Nope. Me either.
Friends campaign Chessie's.
They are doing very well with multiple trips to Master National, and one dog, breaking the mold, and doing well in the show circuit.

I like yellow dogs, even the never ending, highly visible, fibers of love !

It's a color thing for me. Yellow blends better in dry grass/weeds, and better in cornfields, my main hunting terrain.
They also show facial expressions, and intelligence better than blend in black.

Is one color better than another ? No, it's about breeding.
Do I trust the breeder, and lineage in the line of the color of the dog I want ?
It'll be my 2nd from her, so I must have trust I'll get a good dog.
Got ourselves a chocolate Lab pup, our first Lab. Man, is he fun. Sire and dam were both black. Maybe that will will help a bit. I hope he turns out to be as good a hunter as my Boykin and Golden were.
Lost my Rosie on the 29th of August. Went into hospital with covid pneumonia the 30th. Lost her sister in March. grieving still to come.
starting to look , the thought of returning home to no dog sucks.





















It is funny we look at all the good we can find in the Pedigree yet we don't look at or look into the negatives. I have seen a bunch of great dogs from great Pedigree's that have had a lot of issues. Finding a great dog with no or very few issues is what we should really be searching for.
My boy is in there somewhere !!
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Posted By: patbrennan Re: Choice of new lab pup ? - 10/14/21
Shaping up to be a memorable christmas season for you!
Meet Fin !
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Posted By: Oakster Re: Choice of new lab pup ? - 11/12/21
Awesome, congratulations. Ramblin' Man was a stud.... there is more Hall of Fame dogs in his pedigree than not I think. His lineage is in both of my current labradors if I recall. Enjoy your dog.... its going to be a great journey!
Lee said yesterday was the first time out side.
She said Fin was " very confident, and adventurous. Had to run him down."
Hoping I'm NOT getting a high powered field trial dog......
Finn's 1st duck.
9 weeks old, sits when told to, comes when called, and potty training is going well.
Have had him 10 days now, and doing great.
Shook the duck, dragged it, pulled feathers, and licked at a pellet hole in the breast.
He's going to make a fine waterfowl dog.

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Our Labrador pup is coming along nicely too. He has lots of drive and enthusiasm for retrieving. We will soon be incorporating discipline with the retrieving lessons. We have been getting him familiar with the boat, and working him in new locations as well. So far, he doesn’t care where he is or what the conditions are. He just wants to retrieve.
Finn was at the vet today for his 2nd round of shots.
He's almost 11 weeks old, and weighs 22.5 pounds !
Vet says he'll be a hunert pounds or better when grown !!
Weighed the 13 week monster last evening.
33 pounds !!!
Basic commands are going well for the youngster.
Good looking pup
Finn is now 16 weeks old, and weighing in at a solid 42.0 pounds.
He's going to be alot like his uncle Trap.
Basic commands with hand, voice, and whistle are going great.
Doing an Al Bundee after his 1st trip to the pond.
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The local reservoir pond is pretty iced over, but the edge had some open water. Went right in like he'd done it before !
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Awesome.. Great to hear Splatter!! Makes my heart happy!!
Posted By: kingston Re: Choice of new lab pup ? - 01/16/22
Look at those big ears. He's a good looking pup.
Thanks guys.
He's shaping up just fine already for being a 4 month old.
He's not Trap, but is showing some personalities, and traits, of Trap, because of the lineage.
Now to get him freaking out on real birds !!
Here's getting lovin from mom.
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Posted By: Brazos Re: Choice of new lab pup ? - 01/17/22
Great looking pup. Congratulations.

My daughter lives very close to Onalaska.
Worked him some yesterday.
The healing, on and off the leash is going great.
Got a dove out the freezer. Thawed it, and did some retrieving.
He would heal, but break when thrown. Stay isn't understood too well yet !!

He did bring it back to heal, hold, and deliver to hand !
I was so proud !!
I guess buying an awesome pedigree, this may come from the genes passed on ?
Bought a folding, 6 foot dog ramp off FB yesterday. He doesn't get car sick, and remembers picking him up in the semi.
At close to a hunert pounds when full grown. I'm not gonna lift him in and out.
Laid the ramp on the side step, just below the door, and up he ran, and back out and down, and back again. Just like he had done it a thousand times already !
He's a very smart boy !!
Posted By: raamw Re: Choice of new lab pup ? - 01/17/22
You can use a short lead at the line, take up the slack and step on it, keep repeating sit when he calms down let him go, remember calm voice don't use excitable voice ggod luck
Posted By: Judman Re: Choice of new lab pup ? - 01/20/22
Good lookin dog. 👍

Maybe I missed it, who’s your breeder? Thanks
Lee Salmon. Wind River Labs, Onalaska, Wa.
Finn is my 2nd from her.
Posted By: Judman Re: Choice of new lab pup ? - 01/21/22
Copy that, they’re about 5-10 miles from me, sounds like a good outfit
Posted By: Oakster Re: Choice of new lab pup ? - 01/23/22
Originally Posted by splattermatic
Lee said yesterday was the first time out side.
She said Fin was " very confident, and adventurous. Had to run him down."
Hoping I'm NOT getting a high powered field trial dog......



Lol, you saw the pedigree.... He is going to have a ton of energy most likely. if you dont get that energy out of him, the chewing and puppy stage will last forever. Enjoy that dog!
Posted By: Oakster Re: Choice of new lab pup ? - 01/23/22
That dog looks great. What a fun time.

I took my current dog, about the same age as yours, to a traininer. I have never had a professionally trained bird dog and want to try it once. He has been there two weeks, with likely a 4 month stay. Its pretty quiet and empty in the house while he is gone. My 4 year old lab misses him and has an abundance of energy without the young guy to play with. When the young guy was here, the 4 year old was trying to get away from him more often then not, but he misses him now.
He's actually pretty mellow.
He does have his moments.
Took him out to a pond we hunt at the other day.
Sure like how a yeller dog blends in.
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Out yesterday, and he had a ball running around, and chewing sticks. Just had to lay in the snow !
Wife was a ways away, and he would run over to check on her, and I'd just toot on the whistle, and he'd come running back to me. He's got that whistle command down pat !
I have a friend who trains dogs near me.
Finn will go visit for a time.
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Monday was his 1st hunt.
Gunfire never phased him, so I can check gun shy off the list.
Went with me into the ice cold pond to set some dekes.
Took 1 shot at a pintail, and he had no clue what is going on yet.
He was a wonderful companion, and was a 4 month old puppy chewing/tasting everything.
He got tuckered out and cold, and took a nap.
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And so it starts.......
Beautiful!
Posted By: battue Re: Choice of new lab pup ? - 01/27/22
Great pic!!!!
My boy !
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Posted By: High_Noon Re: Choice of new lab pup ? - 02/10/22
Good-lookin' pup you got there.
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