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Posted By: nyrifleman Opinions please gents... - 07/31/15
What do you think this one is worth?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=498311675
$5,500.00
Posted By: battue Re: Opinions please gents... - 08/01/15
Less than what it is going to sell for. Will be interesting to see what it brings. Looks like a nice rifle----from here.
Posted By: GSPfan Re: Opinions please gents... - 08/01/15
I bet it will go in the $5K range. I'll say this for the seller, he takes excellent photos. Those are some the most detailed pics I've seen of a gun being offered for sale on the web. I'm glad this one doesn't interest me.
Posted By: sbrmike Re: Opinions please gents... - 08/01/15
I am going to say that the bolt has been reblued??? Look by the handle and then the black bolt face???

ETA: Odd but not unheard of, a 22G with a high comb stock.
Originally Posted by sbrmike
I am going to say that the bolt has been reblued??? Look by the handle and then the black bolt face???

ETA: Odd but not unheard of, a 22G with a high comb stock.


I thought the same exact things. Good eye Mike.. I will also add that the receiver looks a little off too and the butt plate looks to have been re-blued/touched up. The rear sight definitely caught my eye, as I'm sure it is not original to the rifle. Like mike said, the 22G was used on the low combs from 1936-1953. This SG should have came with a Lyman 16B. However, I'm still holding on to the belief that it will sell for somewhere around $5,500.00.
Just picked up a 98% condition 1952 (208xxx) Winchester 70 300 h&h magnum a few weeks ago. From 1952-54, the Monte Carlo stock version came with the Marbles 69 rear sight.
I think this is the only time period a Marbles sight was used on a Pre 64 Model 70.
More than I can afford.
Posted By: GSPfan Re: Opinions please gents... - 08/01/15
Robert nice find. Was it local? It will make a fine deer rifle.
Originally Posted by robertacabin
Just picked up a 98% condition 1952 (208xxx) Winchester 70 300 h&h magnum a few weeks ago. From 1952-54, the Monte Carlo stock version came with the Marbles 69 rear sight.
I think this is the only time period a Marbles sight was used on a Pre 64 Model 70.



Post some pictures man!!! laugh I have a 375 H&H that's like that.. from "54-56"... Receiver from '56 and the barrel from a '54... laugh wink . Oh wait, you were talking about the rear sights for the monte carlo rifles. The 16B was also used from '54 to '63. It replaced the marbles sight during that time..
Originally Posted by sbrmike
I am going to say that the bolt has been reblued??? Look by the handle and then the black bolt face???

ETA: Odd but not unheard of, a 22G with a high comb stock.


I look at that as a "win win" situation. Sell the 22G on ebay for $120.00 and buy the correct sight for $25.00. laugh
Did not buy the 300 h&h very local. Spokane, Washington of all places. Attended a local gun show today and came across a few other really nice rifles. Both from same seller, one was a 1960 Browning 264 wm Safari High Power in 98% condition, never fired, priced at $1700. The other was a Pre 64 Winchester model 70 375 h&h Super grade also in 98%+ condition. It was the real deal and very nice. Never observed one before so it was a treat to see. Priced at $5000.00. I do have vendors # so if any interest, pm me. I do not know the individual or have anything to do with the sale. Thought I would pass info along on a couple rare ones.
NYRIFLEMAN, I apologize for high jacking your thread.
Originally Posted by robertacabin
NYRIFLEMAN, I apologize for high jacking your thread.



Start your own thread with good pictures.. Post up some target pics too!!! laugh
Originally Posted by robertacabin
NYRIFLEMAN, I apologize for high jacking your thread.


No worries, any and all discussions concerning the M70 are welcome.

Enjoying reading the responses.

Thanks all, carry on.

BSA, Wish I could post pics, but not that knowledgeable with computers and their workings.
Originally Posted by nyrifleman
Originally Posted by robertacabin
NYRIFLEMAN, I apologize for high jacking your thread.


No worries, any and all discussions concerning the M70 are welcome.

Enjoying reading the responses.

Thanks all, carry on.



That's the thing I like about you... laugh
Posted By: GSPfan Re: Opinions please gents... - 08/01/15
I can't do the pics either. The 375 sounds like a nice rifle but I just bought a mint 22 Hornet and a Fox shotgun.
Posted By: battue Re: Opinions please gents... - 08/02/15
Box not offered. Does that mean there is one or there isnt one. If there is one, and you want top dollar for the complete package, why wouldn't it be included?

If not, a rifle in that perfect of condition must have been wrapped in a soft blanket and never touched or handled. Not a rub mark I can see-other than one ding on the comb-which makes me think it has been worked on and not that long ago.
That definitely would be a nice one to put in the safe.
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by nyrifleman
Originally Posted by robertacabin
NYRIFLEMAN, I apologize for high jacking your thread.


No worries, any and all discussions concerning the M70 are welcome.

Enjoying reading the responses.

Thanks all, carry on.



That's the thing I like about you... laugh


I expect to be included in your will.
Posted By: battue Re: Opinions please gents... - 08/07/15
Originally Posted by nyrifleman


What happened?
Posted By: GSPfan Re: Opinions please gents... - 08/07/15
Did it get re listed??? Reserve not met, probably to high anyway smile
Posted By: battue Re: Opinions please gents... - 08/07/15
Could be wrong, but I think it has been refurbished.
Posted By: GBOB Re: Opinions please gents... - 08/07/15
I have watched his auctions for a while and some always seem to have some help. He sells alot of pre 64 parts on eBay and I think this had some refinishing. As a side note, earlier this week I checked all his auctions, and as usual, the same bidder was bidding up all pieces....
Posted By: yooper35 Re: Opinions please gents... - 08/07/15
Originally Posted by GBOB
I have watched his auctions for a while and some always seem to have some help. He sells alot of pre 64 parts on eBay and I think this had some refinishing. As a side note, earlier this week I checked all his auctions, and as usual, the same bidder was bidding up all pieces....


It sure looks like "zjimmy" has very diverse tastes and deep pockets. wink It's very curious. Or not.
yooper
Posted By: sbrmike Re: Opinions please gents... - 08/07/15
zjimmy has never won tdail, jtd auctions either??? Check his feedback.

A 1954 is the easiest of all Supergrades to fake as well. The metal is NO different from Standards.
Posted By: Horseman Re: Opinions please gents... - 08/07/15
Originally Posted by sbrmike
zjimmy has never won tdail, jtd auctions either??? Check his feedback.

A 1954 is the easiest of all Supergrades to fake as well. The metal is NO different from Standards.


Didn't know that. No S on recoil lug or SUPER under chamber in 54?

I think the gun in question has had at least the bolt reblued. I've also never seen a SG that didn't have at least some separation in the finish where forend cap meets walnut. So for me I'm nearly certain the bolt and stock have been messed with.
Posted By: Slavek Re: Opinions please gents... - 08/07/15
Originally Posted by Horseman
Originally Posted by sbrmike
zjimmy has never won tdail, jtd auctions either??? Check his feedback.

A 1954 is the easiest of all Supergrades to fake as well. The metal is NO different from Standards.


Didn't know that. No S on recoil lug or SUPER under chamber in 54?

I think the gun in question has had at least the bolt reblued. I've also never seen a SG that didn't have at least some separation in the finish where forend cap meets walnut. So for me I'm nearly certain the bolt and stock have been messed with.


You have good eyes, but it is not re-blued. The process is called air-dry ceramic coating. Here is good example......

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Very nice finish. I would add about $100 to estimated price of that wonderful Winchester gun.

Posted By: Horseman Re: Opinions please gents... - 08/08/15
So you're the seller slavek?
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