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I saw this one at the gun show today. A guy I see at a good many of the shows had it. He almost always has at least 1 pre64 at the shows I've seen him at.

The wood on this one was very good. No chips, dings, scratches of any kind. It does have a buttpad and appears to have had a portion of the widow's peak cut to receive the pad. The bluing is very good and the bore and bolt face are pristine and look like it may have never been fired much. It is drilled and tapped on the left side of the receiver for a scope mount, but the screws look like they've never been touched. The seller said he believes it came from the factory that way. I did a quick check of my Winchester serial numbers manual and the date of manufacture would have been 1955.

I would have taken more pics, but it was a busy show and a lot more people there on the last day than usual. The reason I usually go on the last day is the crowds and possibility of a better deal.

He's asking $1150 for it. Pretty sure he'll go for less.

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If I decide to pass and someone else is interested, I'll gladly put you in touch.

Cheers,
LD
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Nice rifle. Pad and extra holes, plus the deep scratches in the floorplate reduce the value of this one though....Original sling swivels are not there as well. I'd put a value of about $700.00 on it.. The extra drilled holes in the side of the receiver really reduce the value. I remember seeing one at a local gunshow, with extra holes drilled in the side of the receiver, for 3 years in a row with no buyer at $650.00.
That gun isn't "super clean." I concur with BSA: $700 at best, and likely less due to the extra holes in the receiver.
Thanks, fellas. As I thought, but didn't even think about the sling swivels.
Are the holes for a scope mount or are they two holes close together near the rear of the receiver, which would be factory drilled holes for a receiver sight. I just bought an identical gun in similar with an added pad but with no extra holes. It was $1,000 and included a Leupold VX2. I think I got a great deal for a really clean shooter.
My thoughts also, re the receiver sight holes??? As to value, a nice '55 70 with a pad has got to be worth as much as a 700 or a 77.

Jack
Originally Posted by DesertMuleDeer
Are the holes for a scope mount or are they two holes close together near the rear of the receiver, which would be factory drilled holes for a receiver sight. I just bought an identical gun in similar with an added pad but with no extra holes. It was $1,000 and included a Leupold VX2. I think I got a great deal for a really clean shooter.


OP makes it sound like they are extra holes drilled and tapped in the side of the receiver for "scope mounts". No pictures of the port side of the rifle or we'd know for certain what he's talking about. As you said, the factory drilled 2 holes near the rear of the receiver:

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Maybe the OP can let us know for sure. I'd up my value estimate if I knew which holes he's talking about, but hold true to the $700.00 estimate if there are more than the 2 factory drilled holes as pictured above..
Fellas, they are the factory drilled holes as discussed and as I described in original post. They are identical to BSA's pic in post above.

The seller was not offering a scope with the deal.
When you said "It is drilled and tapped on the left side of the receiver for a scope mount", probably most here thought of the G&H/Williams/Weaver side mounts people had their guns drilled and tapped for in the '50s & '60s so they could see their irons underneath. Have seen several receivers that looked like Swiss cheese after Bubba tried to do it himself with a hand drill. That totally tanks their value. The two factory holes at the rear of the receiver are more commonly referred to as receiver sight holes, although there might have been an odd scope mount or two that used them.
If the metal work's good you could always shop for a nicer stock to get it back to factory condition. I think the other guys could give you a better value than I.
Stith marketed mounts that used the factory d&t receiver sight holes for scope mounting back in the day. Saved a lot of rear receiver bridges from being maimed....
That M70 has the heavy non-Featherweight barrel and the stock is ruined with that gross slapped on recoil pad.

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Don't make an offer on it. Let it go. It's not worth 1/2 price.

Look for a Featherweight in much better shape.
Originally Posted by tmitch
When you said "It is drilled and tapped on the left side of the receiver for a scope mount", probably most here thought of the G&H/Williams/Weaver side mounts people had their guns drilled and tapped for in the '50s & '60s so they could see their irons underneath. Have seen several receivers that looked like Swiss cheese after Bubba tried to do it himself with a hand drill. That totally tanks their value. The two factory holes at the rear of the receiver are more commonly referred to as receiver sight holes, although there might have been an odd scope mount or two that used them.
If the metal work's good you could always shop for a nicer stock to get it back to factory condition. I think the other guys could give you a better value than I.


Spot on. That's the way I read it. Generally there's no need to mention the 2 holes in the receiver because they are factory drilled and tapped. It's like saying the rifle had a bolt or a trigger..... wink
BSA, gotcha.

Didn't really have a use for it, anyway. I'm happy with the 30-06 FWT I got from handwerk last year. That gun has really turned out nice.

What I'm really looking for is a .270 FWT. Yeah, I know. Keep looking. smile
One thing I try to remember before buying a gun is to decide whether it is what I really want. Buying something because it is a good deal often fouls up having funds available when something you really want comes along! (I don't always listen to myself!)
There are 270 Fwts. out there, but bargain prices are virtually non-existent. High condition examples are $1,800+ where I shop for guns....
High condition examples of fwt 270s are virtually unheard of this side of the border, at least I haven't seen one in original condition. Every one I have seen has been "well used".
Originally Posted by local_dirt
I saw this one at the gun show today. A guy I see at a good many of the shows had it. He almost always has at least 1 pre64 at the shows I've seen him at.

The wood on this one was very good. No chips, dings, scratches of any kind. It does have a buttpad and appears to have had a portion of the widow's peak cut to receive the pad. The bluing is very good and the bore and bolt face are pristine and look like it may have never been fired much. It is drilled and tapped on the left side of the receiver for a scope mount, but the screws look like they've never been touched. The seller said he believes it came from the factory that way. I did a quick check of my Winchester serial numbers manual and the date of manufacture would have been 1955.

I would have taken more pics, but it was a busy show and a lot more people there on the last day than usual. The reason I usually go on the last day is the crowds and possibility of a better deal.

He's asking $1150 for it. Pretty sure he'll go for less.

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If I decide to pass and someone else is interested, I'll gladly put you in touch.

Cheers,
LD


Given clarification on holes I would say $850-900. I paid $1,000 for a similar condition gun with a $150-200 scope included. I also bought a 270 Featherweight on campfire a couple of months ago for $750. Original Bluing on the .270 I would rate at 98-99 percent if someone would have not polished the bolt and refinished the stock. Regardless, it is a nice shooter that has not been fired much.
I think it just depends on whether you like the rifle or not. I paid 1150 for this and I know it's not collectible,but I can spend a lot more on any rifle. So it's good to ask the RKI's and learn,it just boils down to what you want.

p.s. Would I rather have the Op's rifle or mine...I like mine better and I bet many would disagree or say neither...like a say it depends on whether the rifle is what you want.

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Is that a Lyman Alaskan in Griffin & Howe mounts? To me, that's a classy setup. For the time period, it didn't get much better. I know the side mount holes hurt "collector" value, but it wouldn't bother me to own one that looks like that!
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Is that a Lyman Alaskan in Griffin & Howe mounts? To me, that's a classy setup. For the time period, it didn't get much better. I know the side mount holes hurt "collector" value, but it wouldn't bother me to own one that looks like that!


tmitch...we think alike...yes to your questions.
RogerD, did it come as pictured for that price? If so I'd consider that a home run! Sometimes, if properly done, a couple extra holes mounting a nice period sight/scope ain't so bad. Case in point, my Models 64 and 1895 with "Climbing Lyman" sights. Few years ago I was sorely tempted by a Model 65 .218 that had an Alaskan in a Stith mount. I'd have bought it too if they hadn't cut the stock and added a Monte Carlo cheek piece. sick
Originally Posted by tmitch
RogerD, did it come as pictured for that price? If so I'd consider that a home run! Sometimes, if properly done, a couple extra holes mounting a nice period sight/scope ain't so bad. Case in point, my Models 64 and 1895 with "Climbing Lyman" sights. Few years ago I was sorely tempted by a Model 65 .218 that had an Alaskan in a Stith mount. I'd have bought it too if they hadn't cut the stock and added a Monte Carlo cheek piece. sick



Yes,exactly as pictured. Funny I can buy some real collectable guns(not this one). It's all luck and timing. It's hard to find old original rifles as many are snapped up for collections. But then I find too many as it is...it breaks my heart to pass on them,but better on my pocket book,atleast that's what I tell myself.
Originally Posted by tmitch
RogerD, did it come as pictured for that price? If so I'd consider that a home run! Sometimes, if properly done, a couple extra holes mounting a nice period sight/scope ain't so bad. Case in point, my Models 64 and 1895 with "Climbing Lyman" sights. Few years ago I was sorely tempted by a Model 65 .218 that had an Alaskan in a Stith mount. I'd have bought it too if they hadn't cut the stock and added a Monte Carlo cheek piece. sick


Double Down Ditto on both parts!
Originally Posted by local_dirt
BSA, gotcha.

Didn't really have a use for it, anyway. I'm happy with the 30-06 FWT I got from handwerk last year. That gun has really turned out nice.

What I'm really looking for is a .270 FWT. Yeah, I know. Keep looking. smile


I hate to agree, but that's what I did. It took me 3 years to find the one I have. Right year, right price, right condition. Just had to wait till I found it!!! sick
Originally Posted by patbrennan
High condition examples of fwt 270s are virtually unheard of this side of the border, at least I haven't seen one in original condition. Every one I have seen has been "well used".


Like I've said before, the 270 fwt's and the 375 H&H's really got used. If you find either of these in primo condition, you are a lucky man...


Here's your Huckleberry, featherweight, minty and sightless to boot...

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Here's your Huckleberry, featherweight, minty and sightless to boot...

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I'll take it for $850!
Seems fair.... whistle Looks like the sights fell off of it anyway...
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