Model 70 Values - 24hourcampfire

While I am not a "collector" as such I am a Model 70 fan. In my search for a Post-64 Fwt 243 I have found prices are all over the map. In some ways it seems to be a location thing, higher one one area over another for the same or seemingly identical rifles. Some PFs are higher than classics and some higher than new. Other places the PFs are very reasonable and the used CRFs are edging into pre-64 territory. The again some PFs are right there with the pre-64's too. Is it the caliber? I think a used PF for $1000 and a new CRF for around 800 seems weird. I would think the later PFs would be about 500 if new is 800. Anyone offer some clarity to the seemingly murky market? Thanks

ODS,
I bought a 1953 Win 70 30-06 in July for $700 + tax.

I took off the Redfield peep and put on a scope, a stock, and a 25-06 barrel... and shot a mule buck in October.

Originally Posted by Old_Doe_Shooter

While I am not a "collector" as such I am a Model 70 fan. In my search for a Post-64 Fwt 243 I have found prices are all over the map. In some ways it seems to be a location thing, higher one one area over another for the same or seemingly identical rifles. Some PFs are higher than classics and some higher than new. Other places the PFs are very reasonable and the used CRFs are edging into pre-64 territory. The again some PFs are right there with the pre-64's too. Is it the caliber? I think a used PF for $1000 and a new CRF for around 800 seems weird. I would think the later PFs would be about 500 if new is 800. Anyone offer some clarity to the seemingly murky market? Thanks

Like you've seen and relayed in your post, it can be a geographic location thing. Something else to consider is the collectability of each rifle: Winchester really had its ups and downs and some of these prices reflect that. You'll see some of the first XTR featherweights (1980-1981 WRA models) demanding very high prices. You'll also see some of the early classics (1992-1999) demanding more money because they are said to be better made than the last classics made (2001-2006). The left hand model 70 classics demand a lot of money because BACO does not make any left hand model 70's as of yet. Some of the pushfeeds were made with McMillan stocks, those usually sell for more than a standard pushfeed. Some post 64's were considered poorly made, especially the 1964-1968 models. After 1968, they addressed some major issues. Thus creating a much better rifle. If you know the history of Winchester in general, you can rationalize the reasons why specific model 70's demand more money than others.. I'm by no means an "expert", but this is what I've witnessed over the years...

Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter

Originally Posted by Old_Doe_Shooter

While I am not a "collector" as such I am a Model 70 fan. In my search for a Post-64 Fwt 243 I have found prices are all over the map. In some ways it seems to be a location thing, higher one one area over another for the same or seemingly identical rifles. Some PFs are higher than classics and some higher than new. Other places the PFs are very reasonable and the used CRFs are edging into pre-64 territory. The again some PFs are right there with the pre-64's too. Is it the caliber? I think a used PF for $1000 and a new CRF for around 800 seems weird. I would think the later PFs would be about 500 if new is 800. Anyone offer some clarity to the seemingly murky market? Thanks

Like you've seen and relayed in your post, it can be a geographic location thing. Something else to consider is the collectability of each rifle: Winchester really had its ups and downs and some of these prices reflect that. You'll see some of the first XTR featherweights (1980-1981 WRA models) demanding very high prices. You'll also see some of the early classics (1992-1999) demanding more money because they are said to be better made than the last classics made (2001-2006). The left hand model 70 classics demand a lot of money because BACO does not make any left hand model 70's as of yet. Some of the pushfeeds were made with McMillan stocks, those usually sell for more than a standard pushfeed. Some post 64's were considered poorly made, especially the 1964-1968 models. After 1968, they addressed some major issues. Thus creating a much better rifle. If you know the history of Winchester in general, you can rationalize the reasons why specific model 70's demand more money than others.. I'm by no means an "expert", but this is what I've witnessed over the years...

Ditto..

But this - "BACO does not make any left hand model 70's as of yet..........." shows just how stupid BACO is...

Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter

Originally Posted by Old_Doe_Shooter

While I am not a "collector" as such I am a Model 70 fan. In my search for a Post-64 Fwt 243 I have found prices are all over the map. In some ways it seems to be a location thing, higher one one area over another for the same or seemingly identical rifles. Some PFs are higher than classics and some higher than new. Other places the PFs are very reasonable and the used CRFs are edging into pre-64 territory. The again some PFs are right there with the pre-64's too. Is it the caliber? I think a used PF for $1000 and a new CRF for around 800 seems weird. I would think the later PFs would be about 500 if new is 800. Anyone offer some clarity to the seemingly murky market? Thanks

Like you've seen and relayed in your post, it can be a geographic location thing. Something else to consider is the collectability of each rifle: Winchester really had its ups and downs and some of these prices reflect that. You'll see some of the first XTR featherweights (1980-1981 WRA models) demanding very high prices. You'll also see some of the early classics (1992-1999) demanding more money because they are said to be better made than the last classics made (2001-2006). The left hand model 70 classics demand a lot of money because BACO does not make any left hand model 70's as of yet. Some of the pushfeeds were made with McMillan stocks, those usually sell for more than a standard pushfeed. Some post 64's were considered poorly made, especially the 1964-1968 models. After 1968, they addressed some major issues. Thus creating a much better rifle. If you know the history of Winchester in general, you can rationalize the reasons why specific model 70's demand more money than others.. I'm by no means an "expert", but this is what I've witnessed over the years...

Very informative!