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Posted By: mauserand9mm Voice referendum - 09/23/23
Anyone really know what the "Voice" vote means?

(Not referring to the 35sambar version - I think we all have appreciation for that.)
Posted By: JSTUART Re: Voice referendum - 09/23/23
It will be about giving Aboriginals an independent place in parliament, separate to and not answerable to the the rest of the electorate.

I absolutely do not want this, and neither do my Aboriginal relatives. The current system represents all Australians and does not separate the community in to us and them.

The labor party turds are attempting to do what the US has done with their blacks, namely turn them in to a permanent underclass voting block that will ally themselves to the labor party.


If labor wants something it is best to deny it...particularly if it is pushed by the current greasy clown in the top seat.
Posted By: mauserand9mm Re: Voice referendum - 09/23/23
It does appear to be devisive, and immediately dismissable just because it's being pushed so heavily and hastily by an untrustworthy government.
Posted By: DBT Re: Voice referendum - 09/23/23
Voting no on the 14th Oct because it is divisive. We all have representation.
Posted By: purri Re: Voice referendum - 09/24/23
as a blakfulla it's a good start. it speaks of advice not compulsion.
Posted By: mauserand9mm Re: Voice referendum - 09/24/23
Originally Posted by purri
as a blakfulla it's a good start. it speaks of advice not compulsion.

Isn't that a risk though? Once in the constitution that would enable the power to create laws, laws that could create division.
Posted By: purri Re: Voice referendum - 09/29/23
oh dear.... ever read the constitution? it is a short generic document, doesn't even political parties etc ad infinitum.
Posted By: purri Re: Voice referendum - 09/29/23
oh dear.... ever read the constitution? it is a short generic document, doesn't even mention political parties etc ad infinitum. purely abt separation of State and Federal powers. BTW the original draft was rejected by pommy parliament.
Posted By: JSTUART Re: Voice referendum - 10/07/23
Whereabouts are you?
Posted By: purri Re: Voice referendum - 10/12/23
OZ NSW.
Posted By: JSTUART Re: Voice referendum - 10/12/23
Riverina here, Waradgery country.
Posted By: DBT Re: Voice referendum - 10/13/23
The big day is here. Whatever else, it'll be interesting whichever way it goes.
Posted By: DBT Re: Voice referendum - 10/14/23
My Vote has been Cast.
Posted By: mauserand9mm Re: Voice referendum - 10/14/23
Same here - just returned from my voting expedition. Now we wait....
Posted By: JSTUART Re: Voice referendum - 10/14/23
All over bar the shouting, maybe we can get back to being a nation again without the labor pricks shoving their unwanted agendas down our throats.
Posted By: dan_oz Re: Voice referendum - 10/14/23
Failed spectacularly, and a good thing too IMHO. It was inherently racist, designed to promote division and give power and wealth to a very small coterie of insiders. No one else's interests were served, black, white or brindle.
Posted By: JSTUART Re: Voice referendum - 10/14/23
Originally Posted by dan_oz
Failed spectacularly, and a good thing too IMHO. It was inherently racist, designed to promote division and give power and wealth to a very small coterie of insiders. No one else's interests were served, black, white or brindle.


That is my summation as well.

That Albanese prick is a greasy bit of work and will keep pushing, he has no respect for the voters.
Posted By: Castle_Rock Re: Voice referendum - 10/14/23
Someone must have belted him on the ear, jeez it was red
Posted By: DBT Re: Voice referendum - 10/15/23
Albanese should have done a referendum on his immigration policy, 200k immigrants per annum in a housing and infrastructure crisis, the co*ckhead.
Posted By: Verylargeboots Re: Voice referendum - 10/15/23
So would this make the Aboriginals independent of Australian governance? Is it separate but equal?


I don't know much about the politics in Australia, admittedly.
Posted By: JSTUART Re: Voice referendum - 10/15/23
Originally Posted by Verylargeboots
So would this make the Aboriginals independent of Australian governance? Is it separate but equal?


I don't know much about the politics in Australia, admittedly.


Just the same as the rest of us, no better and no worse...with the same representation.
Posted By: mauserand9mm Re: Voice referendum - 10/15/23
Originally Posted by Verylargeboots
So would this make the Aboriginals independent of Australian governance? Is it separate but equal?


I don't know much about the politics in Australia, admittedly.


Not really, we are basically all Australians. The aboriginals do have claim to land areas that are of cultural significance historically and currently.

They do have groups that are marginalised and have worse life outcomes than the majority. There is some blame that this is due to white settlement but I think this is over-reach blame of what the real issues are.

There is ongoing political talk of reconcilliation but I don't even know what this means. It's a warm and fuzzy buzzword that politicians like to use to gain votes from those who like this sort of thing. Most people don't see relevence or association with actions made by those in the distant past, and just want to get on with it.

It seems that the more militant minority aboriginal groups are driving the racism but not the majority that are level headed and wanting to fix up the problems properly.

It's interesting to note that these minority groups are focussed around the larger populated urban areas and removed from the bulk of whom they falsely represent.

There are problems but, as evidenced by the large diverse cultural make up of Australian population, we are not a racist country.

That's my take on the situation.
Posted By: mauserand9mm Re: Voice referendum - 10/15/23
Originally Posted by DBT
Albanese should have done a referendum on his immigration policy, 200k immigrants per annum in a housing and infrastructure crisis, the co*ckhead.

Yeah, given the current financial issues, it's hard to fathom what is going on in that clown's head, and what his real intents are. Like they predicted, it isn't easy with Albanese at the helm.
Posted By: Riflehunter Re: Voice referendum - 10/15/23
I believe that the polls showed that approximately 39% of the Australian voting population are complete f'wits.
Posted By: JSTUART Re: Voice referendum - 10/15/23
Originally Posted by Riflehunter
I believe that the polls showed that approximately 39% of the Australian voting population are complete f'wits.


Why.
Posted By: lowplainsdrifter Re: Voice referendum - 10/15/23
I grew up in north SA, my dad spent the majority of his career working in the APY lands as a police officer devoted to helping the community out. even came out of retirement to work with the election in central aus the last few months to help out again. Dad and his colleague are well respected members of the indigenous community who’ve been there and seen it all and they disagreed with the voice because they’ve seen first hand how the money from the politics and activists gets squandered and nothing will change, so I went with them on the no. Long winded post but yeah cheers
Posted By: Verylargeboots Re: Voice referendum - 10/15/23
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Just the same as the rest of us, no better and no worse...with the same representation.


Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Originally Posted by Verylargeboots
So would this make the Aboriginals independent of Australian governance? Is it separate but equal?


I don't know much about the politics in Australia, admittedly.


Not really, we are basically all Australians. The aboriginals do have claim to land areas that are of cultural significance historically and currently.

They do have groups that are marginalised and have worse life outcomes than the majority. There is some blame that this is due to white settlement but I think this is over-reach blame of what the real issues are.

There is ongoing political talk of reconcilliation but I don't even know what this means. It's a warm and fuzzy buzzword that politicians like to use to gain votes from those who like this sort of thing. Most people don't see relevence or association with actions made by those in the distant past, and just want to get on with it.

It seems that the more militant minority aboriginal groups are driving the racism but not the majority that are level headed and wanting to fix up the problems properly.

It's interesting to note that these minority groups are focussed around the larger populated urban areas and removed from the bulk of whom they falsely represent.

There are problems but, as evidenced by the large diverse cultural make up of Australian population, we are not a racist country.

That's my take on the situation.

Thank you both, this gives me a little more perspective than what I previously had.
Posted By: Riflehunter Re: Voice referendum - 10/15/23
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by Riflehunter
I believe that the polls showed that approximately 39% of the Australian voting population are complete f'wits.


Why.
JSTUPID, It's good that you ask questions, rather than give your opinion on anything, but it's extremely doubtful that you would properly understand the answer. Perhaps on a different note you could explain what appears to be blatant attempts at ass licking (Big Stick and 35Sambar) when at first, you appeared to be a complete [bleep] to 35Sambar when he started posting those excellent deer hunting pictures?
Posted By: JSTUART Re: Voice referendum - 10/15/23
Originally Posted by Riflehunter
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by Riflehunter
I believe that the polls showed that approximately 39% of the Australian voting population are complete f'wits.


Why.
JSTUPID, It's good that you ask questions, rather than give your opinion on anything, but it's extremely doubtful that you would properly understand the answer. Perhaps on a different note you could explain what appears to be blatant attempts at ass licking (Big Stick and 35Sambar) when at first, you appeared to be a complete [bleep] to 35Sambar when he started posting those excellent deer hunting pictures?


So as usual you have nothing and cover it by being full of shit.
Posted By: Riflehunter Re: Voice referendum - 10/15/23
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by Riflehunter
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by Riflehunter
I believe that the polls showed that approximately 39% of the Australian voting population are complete f'wits.


Why.
JSTUPID, It's good that you ask questions, rather than give your opinion on anything, but it's extremely doubtful that you would properly understand the answer. Perhaps on a different note you could explain what appears to be blatant attempts at ass licking (Big Stick and 35Sambar) when at first, you appeared to be a complete [bleep] to 35Sambar when he started posting those excellent deer hunting pictures?


So as usual you have nothing and cover it by being full of shit.
You need to stop being such a foul-mouthed POS, and stop blaming everyone else except yourself for your low socio/economic position in life ("land of milk and honey for some...").
Posted By: JSTUART Re: Voice referendum - 10/15/23
Originally Posted by Riflehunter
You need to stop being such a foul-mouthed POS, and stop blaming everyone else except yourself for your low socio/economic position in life.


You sound a lot like slurpee...and I have over three hundred thousand in my bank account, own all my vehicles outright, and own my home.

Have a nice day pussy.


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Posted By: Riflehunter Re: Voice referendum - 10/15/23
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by Riflehunter
You need to stop being such a foul-mouthed POS, and stop blaming everyone else except yourself for your low socio/economic position in life.


You sound a lot like slurpee...and I have over three hundred thousand in my bank account, own all my vehicles outright, and own my home.

Have a nice day.
Sure you have. Then why are half your posts complaining about how you can't afford a decent gun or that life's been so bad to you? Doesn't add up.
Posted By: JSTUART Re: Voice referendum - 10/15/23
These are my other accounts.

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These rifles are most definitely not rubbish.

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My loading gear is good.

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This Rav4 Hybrid is paid for.

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This diesel Toyota Hilux is paid for.

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I have been married to my wife for almost 40 years...and she can really cook!

My Daughter has about a year to go in her teaching degree.

We are currently working on my house in preparation for selling it so as to move to either Ararat in Victoria, or Tasmania...whichever...because I want to.

My name is James Stuart and I live in Hay NSW Australia.

Honestly...my life really is excellent!



And as usual...you are full of shit.
Posted By: JSTUART Re: Voice referendum - 10/15/23
Oh, and...pussy!


I pick my teeth with this.

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...because the others are in the drawer.
Posted By: JSTUART Re: Voice referendum - 10/15/23
And for future reference pussy...these fora are full of haves that quietly go about their own business without feeling the need to bluster and bullshit with pretend.
Posted By: JSTUART Re: Voice referendum - 10/16/23
Last but not least pussy...I have less than nine years to retirement benefits and a super pay out.

After which I fully intend spending the remainder of my time trout fishing and hunting deer as the whim takes me.


So yes...I can quite literally move to where the trout and deer are, AND sit on my arse hunting and fishing 'til retirement.


Life is fucking GREAT!
Posted By: Verylargeboots Re: Voice referendum - 10/16/23
Originally Posted by JSTUART
These are my other accounts.

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These rifles are most definitely not rubbish.

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My loading gear is good.

[Linked Image]
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[Linked Image]

This Rav4 Hybrid is paid for.

[Linked Image]

This diesel Toyota Hilux is paid for.

[Linked Image]

I have been married to my wife for almost 40 years...and she can really cook!

My Daughter has about a year to go in her teaching degree.

We are currently working on my house in preparation for selling it so as to move to either Ararat in Victoria, or Tasmania...whichever...because I want to.

My name is James Stuart and I live in Hay NSW Australia.

Honestly...my life really is excellent!



And as usual...you are full of shit.


Awesome Diesel Hilux
Posted By: JSTUART Re: Voice referendum - 10/16/23
Originally Posted by Verylargeboots
Awesome Diesel Hilux


It is a SR5...auto, diff locks, canopy...and dead nuts reliable.

Took it to Tassie earlier this year and it was a breeze in the mountains, far more get up and go than I need.


Pic from Tassie trip.

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Posted By: JSTUART Re: Voice referendum - 10/16/23
Originally Posted by Riflehunter
Sure you have. Then why are half your posts complaining about how you can't afford a decent gun or that life's been so bad to you? Doesn't add up.

You are always going to be a bit of a bitch aren't you...you Pusillanimous little turd.
Posted By: Riflehunter Re: Voice referendum - 10/16/23
Thanks for showing everyone what a complete loser you are! Your "achievements" are so insignificant, yet you're so proud of them...laughin! Why don't you get rid of those heavy, obsolete pieces of junk that you have the scopes mounted too high on, and buy yourself some good hunting rifles? You also demonstrated to everyone that there's something really wrong with your head, to respond the way you did. Hope you get your "problem" checked out.
Posted By: JSTUART Re: Voice referendum - 10/16/23
Originally Posted by Riflehunter
Thanks for showing everyone what a complete loser you are! Your "achievements" are so insignificant, yet you're so proud of them...laughin! Why don't you get rid of those heavy, obsolete pieces of junk that you have the scopes mounted too high on, and buy yourself some good hunting rifles? You also demonstrated to everyone that there's something really wrong with your head, to respond the way you did. Hope you get your "problem" checked out.


Really pussy...or is that slurpee.


Evidently you are too stupid to even know what you were looking at...don't know much do you boy.
Posted By: JSTUART Re: Voice referendum - 10/16/23
Come on you little turd, show me how broke I am.
Posted By: Riflehunter Re: Voice referendum - 10/16/23
"Honestly...my life really is excellent!" yet "land of milk and honey...for some" which one is it JSTUPID?
Posted By: JSTUART Re: Voice referendum - 10/16/23
Originally Posted by Riflehunter
"Honestly...my life really is excellent!" yet "land of milk and honey...for some" which one is it JSTUPID?


Jealous boy?

Guessing you haven't got a pot to piss in and no knowledge or experience of your own.

Come on pissant, show me how brave and smart you think you are...you, being all upper class and socially superior to the rest of us.
Posted By: JSTUART Re: Voice referendum - 10/16/23
Not a single picture to your name, is there boy. You are all hat and no cattle.
Posted By: Riflehunter Re: Voice referendum - 10/16/23
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by Riflehunter
"Honestly...my life really is excellent!" yet "land of milk and honey...for some" which one is it JSTUPID?


Jealous boy?

Guessing you haven't got a pot to piss in and no knowledge or experience of your own.

Come on pissant, show me how brave and smart you think you are...you, being all upper class and socially superior to the rest of us.
Look I know that you are desperate to find a friend on this forum, and that is why you tried your hardest to suck-arse with Big Stick and 35. But you made a fool of yourself because they weren't interested. Now I suspect you might be an LGBT, so I decline your offer of wanting to engage with you. In any case, I really don't want a friend of your "means".
Posted By: JSTUART Re: Voice referendum - 10/16/23
Originally Posted by Riflehunter
Look I know that you are desperate to find a friend on this forum, and that is why you tried your hardest to suck-arse with Big Stick and 35. But you made a fool of yourself because they weren't interested. Now I suspect you might be an LGBT, so I decline your offer of wanting to engage with you. In any case, I really don't want a friend of your "means".


Gutless little shit aren't you.



60 pages of posts and not a picture of your own...full of shit.
Posted By: Riflehunter Re: Voice referendum - 10/16/23
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by Riflehunter
Look I know that you are desperate to find a friend on this forum, and that is why you tried your hardest to suck-arse with Big Stick and 35. But you made a fool of yourself because they weren't interested. Now I suspect you might be an LGBT, so I decline your offer of wanting to engage with you. In any case, I really don't want a friend of your "means".


Gutless little shit aren't you.



60 pages of posts and not a picture of your own...full of shit.
The way you speak, the language you use, makes it quite clear that you are really the bottom of the barrel. I don't want anything whatsoever to do with trash like you, so don't keep wanting to engage me, and that is my final reply to you.
Posted By: JSTUART Re: Voice referendum - 10/16/23
Originally Posted by Riflehunter
The way you speak, the language you use, makes it quite clear that you are really the bottom of the barrel. I don't want anything whatsoever to do with trash like you, so don't keep wanting to engage me, and that is my final reply to you.


You are full of shit boy.
Posted By: JSTUART Re: Voice referendum - 10/16/23
That's the trouble with calling people out you little pissant, you never know what you will get.

And you are still full of shit.
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