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On The Fence - Ithaca 37 16ga

Posted By: WiFowler

On The Fence - Ithaca 37 16ga - 02/12/21

Local shop has a used Ithaca 37 16ga. Nothing fancy, 28" plain barrel, mod choke. Nothing fancy, 1967 vintage from what I can tell (S/N 974xx). Asking price is $300, but it has a couple of issues. Most glaring is the stock, which has had a huge chip in the toe taken out of it and poorly (being generous here) repaired. The other, less 'pressing' issue is that it's configured with a left hand safety. I have it set aside, for now.

I found that the 12ga stock does not fit the 16ga. However, the 16 and 20 share the same frame and stocks 'should' be interchangeable. My initial research has netted me virtually nothing as far as finding a new or used, replacement stock. The gun is shoot-able, but I'd like to minimize its issues. Hence I'm on the fence as to whether or not I should pursue the purchase of this gun. I don't 'need' another Ithaca 37, 16ga - I have a 16ga solid rib.

Thoughts.
Posted By: erich

Re: On The Fence - Ithaca 37 16ga - 02/13/21

A repair to the toe is a pretty simple repair,

Bottom half of the toe was missing, replaced with walnut from a broken Rem 721 stock and a little fitting. I wanted it shootable so didn't worry too much about matching the grain. Last year of production Manufrance Robust.
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Numrich's have them.
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-manufacturer/ithacaskb/shotguns-ithaca/37-2/stocks-ith37
Posted By: TheKid

Re: On The Fence - Ithaca 37 16ga - 02/13/21

The safety in a 37 is reversible with no modifications. Shouldn’t be an issue to tear it down and swap it back.

I’d probably be tempted to give that for it even though I have two 16ga 37s already. If you don’t already have one you definitely need it.
Posted By: ColdIron

Re: On The Fence - Ithaca 37 16ga - 02/13/21

Common place for them to crack, and on top, when people don't keep the through bolt snug as they age and the wood dries out. Not a lot of surface area on the head of the stock and glassbedding helps prevent it too.

You can find replacements on ebay from time to time. You can also get replacement stock sets or stocks from the current Ithaca Gun company including 16 ga.

Buttstock

Stock set with hardware

They are the "modern" steeper radius pistol grip. Which I don't mind so much. On my 12 ga. Ohio made gun replaced the wood with AAA wood for waterfowl. Grandpa and my father never used camo or black guns and killed lots of bird without it. I have too.

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I have a bunch of 37's mainly in 16 ga. I like 26" IC for grouse. Either pre 1955 or even King Ferry UL English Deluxe, they both work well in killing grouse.

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Grew up with a 28" Mod 37 in 16 ga. And for quite a few years shot all types of game with it pretty much everything under the sun. It is the most versatile IMO. If I had to have only one, ohhh I shudder just at the thought of that, never mind.

If you are not in a hurry take your time and should be able to find a good condition 37 for around that price for the same money. Although given the craziness in the world now who knows, maybe not.
Posted By: WiFowler

Re: On The Fence - Ithaca 37 16ga - 02/14/21

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You can find replacements on ebay from time to time. You can also get replacement stock sets or stocks from the current Ithaca Gun company including 16 ga.

Buttstock

Stock set with hardware


Yea, I did some research before posting this thread and came across the above. Was hoping to find something maybe a little more utilitarian, and thus easier on the billfold.

FWIW, I went back to the shop that had the Ithaca 16ga in question. Told the guy I had given it some consideration and that I was going to pass, but thanks for holding it. He asked why I was passing on it and I told him that I thought it was too much money given the condition of the stock and some small freckling on the barrel. In a kind of sarcastic voice he asked what I'd give for it. I thought for a minute and in my own sarcastic voice told him $200. He looked at me in a state of shock, probably from the fact that I had the stones to low-ball him. I started to walk away, and he says, "let's do some paperwork". I was shocked, but I also walked out the door with a 16ga Ithaca 37.

I'm going to take the stock to a fellow that has done some stock repair for others I know and see if he can clean it up. In the meantime I'll have my eyes and ears open to a clean, used Ithaca 37 16ga stock.
Posted By: Magnum_Bob

Re: On The Fence - Ithaca 37 16ga - 02/15/21

Wifi you done good the stock repair isn't that hard, time, glue, piece of walnut and some wood working skills probably a new buttplate or add a pad. They came from a time when companies had pride in what went out the door . I have a 37R in 16 and it could use some minor stock work too . I will do it myself and restore it to it s original glory. Light and fast handling. The last hunt I made years a go with my llewelyn strain English setter female was at 14 for her she was birdy and locked up in about 30 yds I walked up and a sharptail came up at 25 yds and I shot it. She was half way to the bird and another pair came up on the right I shot them too. My old gun is full choked would be better modified but I just use old shells loaded with nitro cards and fiber wads they work fine on closer birds. Mb congrats on your score.
Posted By: Fallschirmjaeger

Re: On The Fence - Ithaca 37 16ga - 04/22/21

When I bought my 37, it was set up with a lefty safety too. Buy the right handed safety, watch a youtube video and the swap is very simple. Sell the lefty safety on here or on eBay. I also changed out the Raybar front site for a large brass bead, opened the choke waaay up, and cut and refinished the stock into an English style grip. It's now an upland woodcock, grouse and bunny slayer. Oh and it's a 16.

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Posted By: 30338

Re: On The Fence - Ithaca 37 16ga - 04/22/21

Nice rig. If the lefty safety fits a 12 gauge also, shoot me a pm with what you want for it. Thanks
Posted By: Boyd45

Re: On The Fence - Ithaca 37 16ga - 04/23/21

Good find at a decent price.
Posted By: Fallschirmjaeger

Re: On The Fence - Ithaca 37 16ga - 04/23/21

Contact these guys and see when they'll be back in stock...

http://gunstocksinc.com/web_pages/Plate-pics/Ithaca-Stocks/Ithaca-stocks.htm
Posted By: WiFowler

Re: On The Fence - Ithaca 37 16ga - 04/25/21

Originally Posted by Fallschirmjaeger
Contact these guys and see when they'll be back in stock...

http://gunstocksinc.com/web_pages/Plate-pics/Ithaca-Stocks/Ithaca-stocks.htm



Will do.

Not sure what changes occurred in the stocks around S/N 855,00 but the one listed are for guns with S/Ns less that that. S/N on this latest Ithaca 37 acquisition is 936XXX. I suspect that the change may have been to the drawbolt tang.
Posted By: Fallschirmjaeger

Re: On The Fence - Ithaca 37 16ga - 04/29/21

I saw a stock set for a 16 on eBay... but they wanted a half of what you paid for the gun for it.
Posted By: WiFowler

Re: On The Fence - Ithaca 37 16ga - 04/30/21

Originally Posted by Fallschirmjaeger
I saw a stock set for a 16 on eBay... but they wanted a half of what you paid for the gun for it.


I've seen a couple on ePay as well. Probably the same ones.

FWIW, I've been working on the stock of this 37 for a few weeks now. Took me a while, but I found a small chunk of walnut with similar grain and have it attached to the old portion of the stock. Haven't touched it in a while but the next step is to put it on the edge sander and try and match up the stock lines. Patience is a virtue .. . . .
Posted By: Fallschirmjaeger

Re: On The Fence - Ithaca 37 16ga - 04/30/21

Good luck... They're great guns...the 16s are light and slick. Mine has been hell on grouse, woodcock and phez...especially when I remember to pump (I'm used to doubles).
Posted By: 30Gibbs

Re: On The Fence - Ithaca 37 16ga - 05/13/21

Originally Posted by erich
A repair to the toe is a pretty simple repair,

Bottom half of the toe was missing, replaced with walnut from a broken Rem 721 stock and a little fitting. I wanted it shootable so didn't worry too much about matching the grain. Last year of production Manufrance Robust.
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Numrich's have them.
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-manufacturer/ithacaskb/shotguns-ithaca/37-2/stocks-ith37



Nice repair job.
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