Yes, I looked there, and they have load data for the cheddite hulls, but only using Universal powder. I'm not sure I can get ahold of that, but let's say I could. The issue is, these are specified as "lead" loads, and 1oz of bismuth won't fit in a 1oz lead wad, or so I've read. The load data they have is for the WAA16 wad or the G/BP 16. The WAA16 is a 7/8-1oz wad, I don't "think" it will hold 1oz of bismuth, but I am new to bismuth reloading, so I'm going on what I've read. The G/BP 16 I can't find good data on. I go to the Hodgdon wad substitution page and the link to the chart is a 404 page not found (
https://www.hodgdonreloading.com/wad-substitution-chart)
So I was hoping that someone with experience reloading bismuth could point me in the right direction. Hodgdon does have 2 recipes specifically for bismuth in the Fiocchi hulls with Fio616 primers.
fio, fio616, 1oz shot, 26gr longshot, g/bp 16 - 8800 PSI, 1350 FPS
fio, fio616, 1oz shot, 27.2gr longshot, g/bp 16 - 10,200 PSI, 1400 FPS
I have read that some recipes interchange the fio616 with ched209. This same data sheet has a load with Fiocchi hull with a ched209 primer:
fio, ched209, 1oz shot, 28gr longshot, g/bp 16 - 9500 PSI, 1400 FPS
All things being roughly equal, 28 grains of longshot with the ched209 results in 9500 PSI, while 27.2 gr longshot with the fio616 results in 10,200 PSI indicates the fio616 is a hotter primer.
It then seems reasonable that I could use this as a baseline:
ched, ched209, 1oz shot, 27 gr longshot, g/bp 16 - (calculated PSI 9160), ~1300-1350 FPS
I've also noted that these recipes specifically for 1oz of bismuth are using the g/bp 16, so maybe my concerns there are unfounded. But the Lyman's guide also has no 16ga recipes for Cheddite hulls (bismuth or lead). I realize that a lot of 16ga shooters are fine with lead, either hunting upland or shooting targets. I want to continue hunting waterfowl with mine. If there's a guide that actually has options, I'm happy to buy it.
Now, the data sheets available here on this forum have 22 loads for Cheddite hulls with 1oz shot payloads all using the SG16 wad. There are a few for universal powder and 1 promising recipe with longshot. But again, these are for lead. So
what I need is someone to tell me that these same recipes will work with bismuth, the 1oz load will fit in the SG16 wad, I can get a good crimp, and all will be well.