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Originally Posted by bowmanh
BTW, the statistics he quotes are either incorrect or misleading.


My bet is on misleading.


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Originally Posted by OrangeOkie
Who is Bret Stephens?


The enemy.


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Just another lying scumbag reporter to smear across the coming battlefield.


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Originally Posted by kellory
Without the 2nd Amendment , it's just the Bill of Suggestions.

LOL. Exactly.

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Originally Posted by kellory
The guy is just wrong about the statistics. And the whole article is full of fallacies in the form of ad hominems and strawmen. And his conclusions are non sequiturs. He is either a schitty propagandist, or his audience are morons (written for lefties), or he was really drunk or high when he wrote this. I think more Americans have become more sophisticated in the past ten years, and this inane drivel doesn't work anymore, except in preaching to the unholy quire.

Agreed.

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Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by bowmanh
BTW, the statistics he quotes are either incorrect or misleading.


My bet is on misleading.


Mine too, somewhat.

My question is, who on "our side" is well versed enough, and well respected enough, to write the rebuttal opinion and get it published in the NYT? And have it read by intelligent citizens who were taught the art of critical thinking?

Critical enough that they could analyze this statement:

"The 46,445 murder victims killed by gunfire in the United States between 2012 and 2016 didn’t need to perish so that gun enthusiasts can go on fantasizing that “Red Dawn” is the fate that soon awaits us."

Mr Stevens does not take into account the number/percentage of the 46,445 "murder victims" that were not innocent victims. Those that were gunned down in mostly major cities by their criminal cohort. Yes, if it was half, 23,222.5 victims were killed, across 4 years, across 50 states and the DC area and perhaps that number were "innocent".

That's just one example that could be used in a rebuttal. I'm sure a person with the time and interest could garner more "misapplied" statistics from Mr Stevens' article.

Our biggest problem as supporters of 2A rights, as I see it, is having a person who can speak to the undecided and even some of the smarter antis and get the point across beyond the emotional appeals of many of the detractors of the 2A.

Geno

PS, knowing a fair amount of "liberals", not ALL of them believe the misleading "news" reports. Many of them just have no use for our way of life and see no reason to protect something that they see as not affecting them. Besides, there's the mentality that "children" (including 19 YO gangbangers?) are more important than any other human being (If it'll save one child line of thinking)


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Originally Posted by ro1459
You would think that this writer would check facts before going to press.
Facts matter little to liberals...


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Originally Posted by OrangeOkie
Who is Bret Stephens?


Until recently, wrote a weekly column for the Wall Street Journal. Seemed to spend most of the fist 6 months after the inauguration bashing Trump. He's where he belongs now (although the WSJ is not a lot better).


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LMAO.

I guess he doesn't grasp the fact that Madison would have had him hanged for treason.




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Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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What a dumb fugk.





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Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I like his writing style. After the first sentence I knew there was no reason to read any further. So, appreciatively, I didn't.


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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