Agreed. But then they go and discontinue 2 great interlocks ( 100 and 120 gr in 257), only to introduce 2 new 110 gr Bullets, an FTX ( now seriously, how much demand can there be for a bullet for the 25-35.?) and now a 110gr ELD-X.
We've lost all .284 roundnose bullets. I've laid in a store of 154-gr SP Interlocks just in case. I've told my wife to bury me with them because I hope we are still able to hunt in the resurrected New Heaven and New Earth, but even then don't trust Hornady to keep making them.
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Does anybody have a preference at magnum velocities (3000fps+)if accuracy is equal? Would the accubond hold together better but loose out on penetration? I've thought the partition would make a bigger mess but could be way off.
With mag velocity from a STW. 300 338 and even 25 06 I'd choose the Partition from my experience
I have used Partitions in 6MM, 277, .284 and .308 diameters. The 6MM 85 grain Partiton is an OK bullet. It does give great penetration but to me the wound channel is a bit narrow. It handles bone hits very well and I like to use it for CNS shots. The 150 gr. .277 bullet is excellent in all respects. The 140 and 160 gr. Partitions in .284 are the same way, just can't ask for better performance from a bullet. Recently I have put to the test some 150 gr. .308 Partitions out of a very light 308 and this might be the best all around bullet yet. I have used the 200 and 180 gr. Partitions out of my 30-06 and a 300 Win Mag and for me I don't need any more performance than these two have to offer. I have used some Accubonds in .284 in a 7MM RM and a 280 AI, I came away liking the 150 gr. Ballistic Tips better than the 160 gr. Accubond. Might be a reflection on the cartridges as I really never reached velocities in these two I thought I should get. Meaning no real gains over the 30-06 or 270, 100 fps is a pretty small gain generally.
The last 2 Elk I shot with 150gr Nosler Partitions did not expand as much as I,d like so I,m going back to Accubonds except in my 257 Roberts, because the Partition is more accurate in that rifle.
GunTruck50, what kind of expansion were you expecting and what did you get? Did you recover the bullets ? If so what did they(it) look like. Did the elk require tracking? Did you have to shoot them more than once? Thanks.
I totally agree with shrapnel about this. If one would study his quarry, the quarry's anatomy, and practice putting the ordinance where intended, the minutiae of Terminal Ballistic Performance variable is exactly as stated. Minuetia.
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I agree for the most part with what Shrapnel has told us.. I suppose I have shot most of my elk or many for sure with cup and core bullets.. For years my standard bullet was the Sierra 165 HPBT... I still have a box loaded for my favorite .300... But I have used Part. and Accubonds, especially if I am hunting in an area where I want to make a high shoulder shot for what ever reason.. I have done that with the Sierra's but sometimes a second shot was needed to finish the animal.. I all other hunting the Sierra, Horn. or Nosler BTBT is my choice...
The Ballistic tip is a fine bullet and probably the toughest cup and core bullet made. I have ran them at high velocity from 243's to 338's and they always worked and worked well. If you can't kill an animal cleanly with a ballistic tip the problems with the Indian, not the arrow.
The majority of the elk and large axis I've taken have been taken with C-n-C bullets. My largest bodied whitetail (200+ live weight) was taken with a C-n-C 120 grain 257 caliber at 480 yards (+/-) and traveled in the shoulder closest to me and exited the off-side ham. I had some problems with .257 caliber factory stuff back in the early 80's and pretty much stick with the C-n-C bullets until I tried the Accubonds. I'm using those now in the 25-06's, 243, 308 and the two 6.5's. Took my elk last year with the 142 gr LRAB with complete pass through of both shoulder blades. I still use C-n-C bullets in 223, 7mm, 358 and .357 as well as one 30. Put a decent bullet in the right place and let it do it's job.
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Both elk were taken with a 270 Winchester with 150gr Nosler Partitions using Norma MRP. First elk was a cow at about 60 yards hit shoulder, not much expansion going thru but nose of bullet broke off sliced heart open like a knife and came out thru the chest. Rest of the bullet continued on thru and hit the shoulder bone on the far side it bounced off and followed the leg bone down to where your elbow would be. Butcher dug it out their. It,s around the house here some where. back half weight about 95grains. had to shoot cow in neck to kill it. Bull elk in 2015 in Wyoming shot it using same load as 2012 in Arizona. Shot bull in rain and fog at about 175 yards. Bullet went thru both shoulders, Broke first shoulder but not second. Small hole coming out second shoulder went about 50 yards. No bullet recovered. Used 140gr Accubonds with RL23 at about 3040fps or so. Only had a deer tag for Colorado, didn't get one. Trying to decide on Barnes TTSX 110gr or 130gr in my 270 Winchester. So far RL23 is most accurate powder in my 270 Win. RL26 and MRP give higher velocities. In my 30/06 I,m using 150gr Accubonds with RL16 powder. Still use 115gr Partitions in my old model 70 257 Roberts. It do shoots 1 " groups with the Partitions and about 1.5" groups with the 110gr Accubonds.
Killed a lot of other animals, but NP with one shot took out 9'2" brown bear (300gr NP at 2,700 fps); big moose (225gr TTSX at 3,160f sp); small deer (168gr AB 2,600 fps). The AB exit wound on the deer was after going through about 25" of deer. It's ferocious. But I likely would prefer the NP, TTSX or Etip if hunting large dangerous things. But that moderate velocity AB was pretty ferocious to me.