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You`re giving me a bug..
Maybe you would think about renting it out when you`re done?? Sure. No problem.
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Actually, today's H4895 is a different powder than the one Hodgdon sold after WWII. It's one of what Hodgdon calls the "Extreme" line powders made in Australia, which appeared in the 1990's. (They go by different designations Down Under.) 2206H. The H as I understand it stands for Hodgdon. ADI used to make a slightly faster powder called 2206 but when they started supplying Hodgdon with H4895, which was a tad slower than 2206, it made more sense to produce the slower powder and phase out 2206, which they did. And of course added on the H to distinguish between the two very similar powders. If only we could buy it here in Australia for the price you get it over there in the States. Crazy that it's made here and then shipped half way round the world and then sells cheaper, considerably so at times. Some shops were charging AU$85 for 500g (1.1 lb) of the ADI powders, though the last 500g tub I bought was down to AU$62.
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It's interesting how long range shooting is influencing the choice of a hunting cartridge these days, with faster twist rates to stabilise long low drag bullets etc. I posted on another thread a while ago that I have never looked at ballistic coefficient when choosing a hunting bullet in over 20 years. Any standard pointed hunting bullet would fly flat enough to kill a deer out to 400 yards despite having an average BC.
The .25 CM will probably never be commercialised but it would make a dandy little mild moderate range deer round about identical to the .257 Roberts and look how many fellas on here have a soft spot for that grand old round. Nobody talks about loading super low drag bullets in the Roberts so why with the .25 CM? It would fix the debate about long or short action length with the Roberts and would make a great first cartridge for new shooters in a trim light little rifle. But I guess there are enough .257 Roberts and .250 Savages around to cater for the few hunters looking for a mild .25 calibre.
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It's interesting how long range shooting is influencing the choice of a hunting cartridge these days, with faster twist rates to stabilise long low drag bullets etc. I posted on another thread a while ago that I have never looked at ballistic coefficient when choosing a hunting bullet in over 20 years. Any standard pointed hunting bullet would fly flat enough to kill a deer out to 400 yards despite having an average BC.
The .25 CM will probably never be commercialised but it would make a dandy little mild moderate range deer round about identical to the .257 Roberts and look how many fellas on here have a soft spot for that grand old round. Nobody talks about loading super low drag bullets in the Roberts so why with the .25 CM? It would fix the debate about long or short action length with the Roberts and would make a great first cartridge for new shooters in a trim light little rifle. But I guess there are enough .257 Roberts and .250 Savages around to cater for the few hunters looking for a mild .25 calibre. If there were super low drag 0.257" component bullets on the market, shooters would probably find that the 257 Roberts' 57mm long case would be too long for optimal seating depth with those extra long bullets in short actions, just like the 260's 51mm long case is too long for optimal seating depth with extra long 0.264"bullets in short actions. If seating extra long bullets in the 260 has proven to be a matter of international significance, seating equally long bullets in the 257 Roberts are likely to be a failure of equally epic proportions.
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It's interesting how long range shooting is influencing the choice of a hunting cartridge these days, with faster twist rates to stabilise long low drag bullets etc. I posted on another thread a while ago that I have never looked at ballistic coefficient when choosing a hunting bullet in over 20 years. Any standard pointed hunting bullet would fly flat enough to kill a deer out to 400 yards despite having an average BC.
The .25 CM will probably never be commercialised but it would make a dandy little mild moderate range deer round about identical to the .257 Roberts and look how many fellas on here have a soft spot for that grand old round. Nobody talks about loading super low drag bullets in the Roberts so why with the .25 CM? It would fix the debate about long or short action length with the Roberts and would make a great first cartridge for new shooters in a trim light little rifle. But I guess there are enough .257 Roberts and .250 Savages around to cater for the few hunters looking for a mild .25 calibre. if you can shoot 100 gr and 120 gr bullets out of the 6.5 creedmoor, what does a 25 creedmoor do for you? unless you have a stack of .257 barrels or .257 bullets you need to use?
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if you can shoot 100 gr and 120 gr bullets out of the 6.5 creedmoor, what does a 25 creedmoor do for you?
unless you have a stack of .257 barrels or .257 bullets you need to use?
You are absolutely right. But I didn't think rifle loonies thought that rationally.
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if you can shoot 100 gr and 120 gr bullets out of the 6.5 creedmoor, what does a 25 creedmoor do for you? [/quote] Nothing.
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if you can shoot 100 gr and 120 gr bullets out of the 6.5 creedmoor, what does a 25 creedmoor do for you?
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if you can shoot 100 gr and 120 gr bullets out of the 6.5 creedmoor, what does a 25 creedmoor do for you?
Zigging when everyone else is zagging is what makes the rifle world go 'round. Of course, Scott. Those not understanding such aren't worthy of their Loony card...  DF
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I got a feeling that when SMACK and Pete53 get theirs up and running, the 25 wannabe crowds` gonna grow.
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if you can shoot 100 gr and 120 gr bullets out of the 6.5 creedmoor, what does a 25 creedmoor do for you?
unless you have a stack of .257 barrels or .257 bullets you need to use?
You are absolutely right. But I didn't think rifle loonies thought that rationally. If I thought rationally, I would have a .22 lr, a .223 and a .308, and need nothing else. but enough about that.... ; )
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i will order a new Savage 110 Tactical Desert rifle end of the month ,reason for that date Savage has a 10% rebate later this month,when that rifle gets here i will take barreled action to Straight Line Machine and have Greg measure barrel for replacement. i did get plenty Lapua Creedmoor 6.5 brass,just need a Redding bushing die and bushings yet. not sure how long it will take for barrel to be made ,but once barrel is on action i will glass bed stock and then start shooting,probably June ? i also thought long and hard about a 257 Roberts but good brass is not as easy to get and 6.5 Creedmoor is so simple to change to .257 with just a bushing die plus Creedmoor with these long bullets will still fit in a short action rifle. i also read someplace someone is making 140 gr. .257 bullets so who knows ? these new .257 131 gr. Black Jack bullets have G7 ballistic coefficient of .330 that`s alot for a bullet !
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got the rifle and was able to order a Brux 25 cal. 7 1/2 twist barrel ,also Brux still has a couple of 25 cal 7 1/2 twist blanks yet ,but when those are gone next ones will be around 6 months. so in about 2 weeks my barrel will be shipped ,we ordered a new reamer 25 Creedmoor from Cylmer that will be 6-8 weeks.
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got the rifle and was able to order a Brux 25 cal. 7 1/2 twist barrel ,also Brux still has a couple of 25 cal 7 1/2 twist blanks yet ,but when those are gone next ones will be around 6 months. so in about 2 weeks my barrel will be shipped ,we ordered a new reamer 25 Creedmoor from Cylmer that will be 6-8 weeks. I got ahold of Brux about the same time. They told me they were I. The process of doing a run of .257 barrels. You must have contacted them about the same time. I ordered a 7.5 twist #2 contour on 3/21. They said I would have it in three weeks, along with a .338 9.3 twist I ordered at the same time. They said my .224 barrel was three months out.
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25 creedmoor, the new koolaid cartridge.
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got my 25 caliber 7 1/2 twist Brux barrel early last week ,i am just waiting for my new 25 Creedmoor reamer now. >this new Koolaid is more beer tomato flavored with a real fast twist of lime.
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got my 25 caliber 7 1/2 twist Brux barrel early last week ,i am just waiting for my new 25 Creedmoor reamer now. >this new Koolaid is more beer tomato flavored with a real fast twist of lime. Brux left a message yesterday and said mine is ready to ship! I ordered it on 3/21/19. Talk about fast! My reamer is ready to rock! This ones going to Kampfeld. ![[Linked Image]](http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k269/landonmoses/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_9682_zpsxqerargl.jpg)
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dang it i hope my reamer shows up soon from Clymer. now i have also decided to build a 257 Roberts with a 7 1/2 twist Brux barrel on my like new Remington 30 express, and re-ream a another 25 caliber rifle into a 257 Roberts also ,so my daughter and granddaughter have the same cartridge in neat abnormal rifles from the past.i also plan on loading a couple hundred rounds of 257 Roberts so they never have to worry about ammo in their life span.
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