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We don't have gun rights, if we did we could walk into any store in any state pay for said gun and walk out with it. We have gun privileges, we can purchase a gun in most places your state of residency or neighboring state in someplace, go through a background check and walk out with it. There is a big difference.
Edit to add: we wouldn't need a permit for pistols or concealed carry. Suppressors would be a normal everyday accessory. SBR, SBS would just be another firearm. Welcome to the Federal Plantation. Please leave your Bill of Rights at the door, you are now under the Constitution. 
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We don't have gun rights, if we did we could walk into any store in any state pay for said gun and walk out with it. We have gun privileges, we can purchase a gun in most places your state of residency or neighboring state in someplace, go through a background check and walk out with it. There is a big difference.
Edit to add: we wouldn't need a permit for pistols or concealed carry. Suppressors would be a normal everyday accessory. SBR, SBS would just be another firearm. Welcome to the Federal Plantation. Please leave your Bill of Rights at the door, you are now under the Constitution. With the SCOUS ruling that reasonable 2nd amendment regulation is just AOK.' Does that mean freedom of press, speech and religion can be regulated too?
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I'm just tired of the calls begging for money 4-5-6 times a week to my cell phone. Now they are using phones with my area code so it looks legit and local.....I cut em off and tell em I'm driving now, can't talk. I paid up my lifetime membership, donate to their banquets....isn't that enough?
Asking them to put me on their no call list is fruitless...you can almost hear em laughing when I request it. Tha banquets that your are supporting are actually “Friends of NRA” banquets, which is a nonprofit group that raises money for youth events and such. We are not part of the political side of the NRA.
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I'm just tired of the calls begging for money 4-5-6 times a week to my cell phone. Now they are using phones with my area code so it looks legit and local.....I cut em off and tell em I'm driving now, can't talk. I paid up my lifetime membership, donate to their banquets....isn't that enough?
Asking them to put me on their no call list is fruitless...you can almost hear em laughing when I request it. I call B.S. I've been an NRA member since 1975. My wife is a member as are my two sons. add a lot of my friends. And NEVER have any of us gotten called 4-5-6 times a week. NEVER. Yeah they send out mailings. But no more than other groups, mail order catalogs, etc. We actually get a call from the NRA every week weekday between 8:00 and 8:30, a.m. No joke! I am a big supporter and a life member, but the constant calls get old. They have a system and it works for them, apparently. 
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Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
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We don't have gun rights, if we did we could walk into any store in any state pay for said gun and walk out with it. We have gun privileges, we can purchase a gun in most places your state of residency or neighboring state in someplace, go through a background check and walk out with it. There is a big difference.
Edit to add: we wouldn't need a permit for pistols or concealed carry. Suppressors would be a normal everyday accessory. SBR, SBS would just be another firearm. Welcome to the Federal Plantation. Please leave your Bill of Rights at the door, you are now under the Constitution. With the SCOUS ruling that reasonable 2nd amendment regulation is just AOK.' Does that mean freedom of press, speech and religion can be regulated too? The Constitution can be amended, rewritten, ect. Not the Bill of Rights nor the Articles of Confederation.
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I'm still paying on my EPL membership....I am on the fence as to how I will proceed. If I'm completely honest....I'm leaning towards saving my money after the Bumpstock nonsense, and the Red Flag stuff doesn't help....
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We don't have gun rights, if we did we could walk into any store in any state pay for said gun and walk out with it. We have gun privileges, we can purchase a gun in most places your state of residency or neighboring state in someplace, go through a background check and walk out with it. There is a big difference.
Edit to add: we wouldn't need a permit for pistols or concealed carry. Suppressors would be a normal everyday accessory. SBR, SBS would just be another firearm. Welcome to the Federal Plantation. Please leave your Bill of Rights at the door, you are now under the Constitution. With the SCOUS ruling that reasonable 2nd amendment regulation is just AOK.' Does that mean freedom of press, speech and religion can be regulated too? The Constitution can be amended, rewritten, ect. Not the Bill of Rights nor the Articles of Confederation. The Bill of Rights are ammendments, the first 10 to be precise of the Constitution . And yes they can be changed. The Articles of Confederation were replaced by the Constitution.
"Maybe we're all happy."
"Go to the sporting goods store. From the files, obtain form 4473. These will contain descriptions of weapons and lists of private ownership."
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It is rants like this that give strength to the anti gun people. The 2 most important ingredients in holding on to the freedoms we have in this country are truth and unity. The Democrats have unity but no truth. Conservatives have truth but no unity. It is obvious that if you only have one ingredient, unity is more powerful.
It is time conservatives realize this and become unified, because both truth and unity will destroy liberalism...
Best post so far this year. Hasbeen F'ing A! Im thinking Srap should run for office.
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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Have the NRA compromised on some issues? Yes. Some things aren't worth fighting against.
Can they conceivably start court fights against every single attempted infringement that comes up? No. There isn't enough money to do that.
Now tell me this: If you "all or nothing" people don't get "all" what do you get? That's right.
I know who files the lawsuits when govt agencies cross the line and deprive us of our 2A rights, and mostly it isnt the NRA. https://www.saf.org/2nd-amendment-legal-action/https://www.saf.org/category/news/
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Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
I Dindo Nuffin
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We don't have gun rights, if we did we could walk into any store in any state pay for said gun and walk out with it. We have gun privileges, we can purchase a gun in most places your state of residency or neighboring state in someplace, go through a background check and walk out with it. There is a big difference.
Edit to add: we wouldn't need a permit for pistols or concealed carry. Suppressors would be a normal everyday accessory. SBR, SBS would just be another firearm. Welcome to the Federal Plantation. Please leave your Bill of Rights at the door, you are now under the Constitution. With the SCOUS ruling that reasonable 2nd amendment regulation is just AOK.' Does that mean freedom of press, speech and religion can be regulated too? The Constitution can be amended, rewritten, ect. Not the Bill of Rights nor the Articles of Confederation. The Bill of Rights are ammendments, the first 10 to be precise of the Constitution . And yes they can be changed. The Articles of Confederation were replaced by the Constitution. The Bill of Rights is not amendable and the Articles being replaced were fiercely opposed in the late 1700's for the very reason it would give us an over bearing Federal Gov. or possibly another Monarchy. It was one of the first heated debates over States rights. The Bill of Rights used for the beginning of the Constitution was more of an appeasement to those opposing the replacement of the Articles of Confederation. This was the beginning of the fall of the united states. The Constitution then allowed them to add The United States which started the domino effect of toppling the State Citizens. Today there are very very few State Citizens and this group is governed by Common Law and the Bill of Rights. It is the Federal Citizens or more common terminology, United States Citizen, that is governed by Civil Law and the Constitution. One group have rights, ie, inalienable rights, while the other group who now are the majority have privileges. This subject is starting to come to the surface again and I hope and pray that it does. Lots and lots of old forgotten history and in many cases deleted history that surrounds this subject. The Virginia Co. is in the very center of this. It was/is the very entity that began the domino effect or could be said they were instrumental in the slow take over of the Republic known as the united states and turned it into a Democracy known as The United States which now is a very advanced Socialistic Government. This take over started in the 1780's and accelerated very quickly from 1830 into 1917. By that point are organic Republic and its citizens of the many states were doomed.
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/quote]
With the SCOUS ruling that reasonable 2nd amendment regulation is just AOK.'
Does that mean freedom of press, speech and religion can be regulated too?[/quote]
The Constitution can be amended, rewritten, ect. Not the Bill of Rights nor the Articles of Confederation.[/quote]
The Bill of Rights are ammendments, the first 10 to be precise of the Constitution . And yes they can be changed. The Articles of Confederation were replaced by the Constitution.
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The Bill of Rights is not amendable and the Articles being replaced were fiercely opposed in the late 1700's for the very reason it would give us an over bearing Federal Gov. or possibly another Monarchy. It was one of the first heated debates over States rights. The Bill of Rights used for the beginning of the Constitution was more of an appeasement to those opposing the replacement of the Articles of Confederation. This was the beginning of the fall of the united states. The Constitution then allowed them to add The United States which started the domino effect of toppling the State Citizens. Today there are very very few State Citizens and this group is governed by Common Law and the Bill of Rights. It is the Federal Citizens or more common terminology, United States Citizen, that is governed by Civil Law and the Constitution. One group have rights, ie, inalienable rights, while the other group who now are the majority have privileges.
This subject is starting to come to the surface again and I hope and pray that it does. Lots and lots of old forgotten history and in many cases deleted history that surrounds this subject. The Virginia Co. is in the very center of this. It was/is the very entity that began the domino effect or could be said they were instrumental in the slow take over of the Republic known as the united states and turned it into a Democracy known as The United States which now is a very advanced Socialistic Government.
This take over started in the 1780's and accelerated very quickly from 1830 into 1917. By that point are organic Republic and its citizens of the many states were doomed. [/quote]
One of the reasons we the people should know this information is because, George Washington (co chair of the Virginia Co) signed a contract giving the King/Queen of England 20% of all tax money collected under the Corp. United States for the lifetime of the Corporate United States. This was done through the Virginia Co. who Daniel Paysuer, the Crown Prince of France was Chairman of and George Washington was co Chairman. In a nut shell, since the establishment of The United States, 20% of taxes collect from you is funneled through the Federal Reserve Bank of Charlotte NC to the King/Queen of England.
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