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My original question was based on groups I shot this weekend with the 7-08AI in the picture. It's been a little more finicky... definitely prefers free recoil. Groups of 10 @ 1" best to maybe 1 1/2" at worst. Hunting rifle, so plenty good, but wondered if I was settling too easy and should be demanding more from it. Really thinking about full length bedding it just to see. Like I think you’ve already said, Melvin would full length bed it. I’d be curious to see how this panned out as well. When free recoiling are you resting under the belly near the balance point? One would think the harmonics of the barrel and fore-end would be least constrained in such a position. The recoil event would also be free of the effect of the wrist and butt stock flexing and twisting as when braced against a shooter.
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My original question was based on groups I shot this weekend with the 7-08AI in the picture. It's been a little more finicky... definitely prefers free recoil. Groups of 10 @ 1" best to maybe 1 1/2" at worst. Hunting rifle, so plenty good, but wondered if I was settling too easy and should be demanding more from it. Really thinking about full length bedding it just to see. Like I think you’ve already said, Melvin would full length bed it. I’d be curious to see how this panned out as well. When free recoiling are you resting under the belly near the balance point? One would think the harmonics of the barrel and fore-end would be least constrained in such a position. The recoil event would also be free of the effect of the wrist and butt stock flexing and twisting as when braced against a shooter. Shooting "1" 10 shot groups with a Kimber montana", I'd leave it alone and be happy with it. If we were talking Tikka, I'd think something was wrong with it and look in to the bedding better..... Sometimes you have to leave well enough alone.
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My original question was based on groups I shot this weekend with the 7-08AI in the picture. It's been a little more finicky... definitely prefers free recoil. Groups of 10 @ 1" best to maybe 1 1/2" at worst. Hunting rifle, so plenty good, but wondered if I was settling too easy and should be demanding more from it. Really thinking about full length bedding it just to see. Like I think you’ve already said, Melvin would full length bed it. I’d be curious to see how this panned out as well. When free recoiling are you resting under the belly near the balance point? One would think the harmonics of the barrel and fore-end would be least constrained in such a position. The recoil event would also be free of the effect of the wrist and butt stock flexing and twisting as when braced against a shooter. Read several times now that it works on Melvin's rifles only due to the rigidity of his stocks? Does the forend on a Montana have more flex than one of Melvin's?
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I don’t know if Melvin’s stocks are stiffer than everybody else’s. Even if they aren’t, they may have been 30 years ago. The statement certainly sounds like something I’ve heard Melvin say. I’ve got a Nula and a Kimber 84 stock, among others. If it’s important I can pull them and see if there’s a straight forward way to quantify their structural qualities, but I think you’ve got examples of both as well.
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I do, but no real idea how to test rigidity/flex in forends. Assume I could clamp the butt and hang weight off the forend and measure deflection. Probably just full length bed and shoot it. If accuracy is negatively affected I can remove bedding and free float. Probably better off loading 50 rds of the 120gr B.T. load that shoots MOA and go hunting....
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Probably better off loading 50 rds of the 120gr B.T. load that shoots MOA and go hunting....
^^^This, unless the goal is science. I’m not too keen on spending my time pursuing these questions, but would happily read along if you do. ;-)
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