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#1949018 - 01/17/08 Sneak Peek: Nikon's New Elite Binocular Line -- EDG  
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Folks:

Thanks to our association with the great folks at Camera Land, we have a sneak peek at a brand new line of binoculars from Nikon, the EDG. Here's an image:

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"EDG Technology

Pronounced “EDGE”, the all-new EDG is the first hunting binocular to harness the optical superiority of Nikon’s exclusive and legendary ED (Extra-Low Dispersion) glass. Nikon’s ED lenses were developed to push the limits of optical performance by virtually eliminating chromatic aberration, or the dispersion that occurs when light rays of varying wavelengths pass through optical glass. The resulting Nikon ED lenses product brilliant, color-corrected images that are extremely bright, razor sharp and free of flare for unparalleled viewing."


These are going to be the schnizzle!

You read it here first.

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#1949022 - 01/17/08 Re: Sneak Peek: Nikon's New Elite Binocular Line -- EDG [Re: RickBin]  
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Priced right along with the Big Three?


"In the real world, think of the 6.5 Creedmoor as the modernized/standardized/optimized version of the 6.5x55/.260." John Barsness 2019
#1949062 - 01/17/08 Re: Sneak Peek: Nikon's New Elite Binocular Line -- EDG [Re: mathman]  
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They will be priced in similar fashion but from what I am told they will be the best of all available in brightness and in resolution.
Notice the winged eye-cups. They've been listening to what people want.


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#1949063 - 01/17/08 Re: Sneak Peek: Nikon's New Elite Binocular Line -- EDG [Re: mathman]  
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Yup.

This line is meant to nudge the Premier LX-L line into the number 2 slot in the Nikon lineup.

They're going for the Big Boys with this one.

rb


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#1949407 - 01/17/08 Re: Sneak Peek: Nikon's New Elite Binocular Line -- EDG [Re: gr8fuldoug]  
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Originally Posted by gr8fuldoug
Notice the winged eye-cups. They've been listening to what people want.


Yes, I do like the winged cups on my older SLC's.


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#1949560 - 01/17/08 Re: Sneak Peek: Nikon's New Elite Binocular Line -- EDG [Re: alpinecrick]  
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Looks a lot like the Steiner Peregrine XP. I'm disappointed.


BTW, something has been bothering me for awhile about the current trend in binocular design. For years and years everyone claimed that one of the inherent benefits of the roof prism design was that their long, "piano" hinges made them more robust and less prone to collimation problems than the open hinges found on porro prism binoculars. Now everyone is making these open-hinged roofs and touting how strong they are. Isn't this a bit of a contradiction?

#1949932 - 01/18/08 Re: Sneak Peek: Nikon's New Elite Binocular Line -- EDG [Re: lucznik]  
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Couldn't agree more, one of the gripes I see with the EL is the hinge design - this one looks to be no stronger. Glad they're making better glass as I have said all along the the LX's fall short of the big 3, I'm guessing that optically this one will be pretty close however.

#1950086 - 01/18/08 Re: Sneak Peek: Nikon's New Elite Binocular Line -- EDG [Re: cfran]  
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Well I disagree with cfran, I actually own a Nikon 8X32 LX and feel that it is a very fine bino - as did many of the bird experts. The only area that if find them to be inferior to the big 3 was in controlling flare in extreme conditions. If nikon has improved upon the LX's then WOW, because every time I put the LX's to my eyes the view is just stunning. Equal or better quality, a few hundred less than the big 3 - I say good for Nikon!


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#1950163 - 01/18/08 Re: Sneak Peek: Nikon's New Elite Binocular Line -- EDG [Re: centershot]  
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I don't think we're that far apart in that for the price they (LX) are a great bino. Just not up to par with some of the others but granted we're not talking a huge difference. I also have noticed the flare, something I don't get with a Swaro or Leica (haven't really tested an FL).

#1952771 - 01/19/08 Re: Sneak Peek: Nikon's New Elite Binocular Line -- EDG [Re: cfran]  
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As a big fan of the best in the Nikon line, and fanatic when it comes to the best image availiable, I'm not even going to consider an EDG. They are not built as tough as the LX, that's odvious. The LX, on the other hand, has passed Barsness's "alaskan guide tests" as far as toughness. That's good enough for me.
The other is the reduction in weight. Again, not me. The Zeiss FL, and the Leica Ultravid are reported by many to be, maybe, a hair better than the LX. They are also much lighter, as apparently the new EDG will be. Not for me. I don't want anything lighter than my 25.5 oz. 8X32 LX. Too much image shake for me. E

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#1952784 - 01/19/08 Re: Sneak Peek: Nikon's New Elite Binocular Line -- EDG [Re: Eremicus]  
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Not to start this into a thread that winds up having little or no meaning....
Since there are no specs as far as weight yet and nobody has handled these, so durability is something that there is no evidence of as of either, I think making any type of determination " They are not built as tough as the LX, that's odvious" is just typing because the space here is free. Let's wait to see when they get released and field tested to come to a conclusion.


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#1952822 - 01/19/08 Re: Sneak Peek: Nikon's New Elite Binocular Line -- EDG [Re: gr8fuldoug]  
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I assumed that they'd be lighter that's true. It sure looks like it. That type of hinge design is not as strong as the one piece hinge and is usually used to make the binocular lighter. That's all I am basing my opinion on.
As to wether they are too light for others or not strong enough for others is their call. There are many here who appreciate other choices that are lighter and not as strong. I'm not one of them. E

#1953414 - 01/19/08 Re: Sneak Peek: Nikon's New Elite Binocular Line -- EDG [Re: Eremicus]  
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And your knew LX (thats not even released yet) or Swarovski EL has failed you when, E? Surely you must have vast experience with both to make such a statement. And please don't quote JB, actually come up with something of your own or shut up.

Sorry Doug, I just turned the thread into something you didn't want it to. My growing intolerance for BS just got the best of me. I apologize.

Bill

#1953510 - 01/19/08 Re: Sneak Peek: Nikon's New Elite Binocular Line -- EDG [Re: tx270]  
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#1953551 - 01/19/08 Re: Sneak Peek: Nikon's New Elite Binocular Line -- EDG [Re: Razkul99]  
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You know I really like the winged eye cups and see that you can get em for Swaros , wish you could get em for Leica's.

#1953607 - 01/19/08 Re: Sneak Peek: Nikon's New Elite Binocular Line -- EDG [Re: AlaskaCub]  
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Found this else where.

Here are some specs for the 8x42 EDG. Prism uses dielectric mirror coating. Body is magnesium.

FOV - 7.7 degrees (61.6 AFOV)

Eye Relief - 19.3mm

Close Focus - 3m

Weight - 835 g

minimum advertised price US$1899.00 (street price should be a bit lower)

#1954673 - 01/20/08 Re: Sneak Peek: Nikon's New Elite Binocular Line -- EDG [Re: AlaskaCub]  
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That, according to my math makes them come out at about 29 ozs. That's alot better than I thought they would be. I'm going to reinstate them for consideration. 29 ozs. isn't far from the 30-31 oz. minimum I set for long range binoculars.
BTW, just because they use the Swaro EL hinge system does not mean that their prisms are mounting less ruggedly like the El's, or the insides use flimsier materials than Zeiss or Leica.
Just based on their weight, it infers that may not be the case. E

#1954710 - 01/20/08 Re: Sneak Peek: Nikon's New Elite Binocular Line -- EDG [Re: Eremicus]  
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Using your scientific methods we can concur that the Pentax coming in around 25 ozs for their 43 size binos are made cheaply. You'd be better off not commenting on such matters as I've never seen someone talk out of both sides of his/her mouth as often as you in my lifetime . . .

#1957581 - 01/21/08 Re: Sneak Peek: Nikon's New Elite Binocular Line -- EDG [Re: cfran]  
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I plan on picking up a pair once they debut. I only have two questions....

1) What is the expected release date?

2) What street price are we talking about for the 7x42s Doug?


Frank
#1957598 - 01/21/08 Re: Sneak Peek: Nikon's New Elite Binocular Line -- EDG [Re: FrankD]  
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May release (on or about) the 7x42 EDG will have an MAP of $1799.95


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#1957705 - 01/21/08 Re: Sneak Peek: Nikon's New Elite Binocular Line -- EDG [Re: gr8fuldoug]  
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Thank you Doug. When are you taking pre-orders?


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