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Lol of course they are...

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If Kimber would just make a Hunter in 223 (1/7, 2.5" OAL of course) and/or 6 ARC, that would just about make the perfect rifle.

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Originally Posted by pka45
If Kimber would just make a Hunter in 223 (1/7, 2.5" OAL of course) and/or 6 ARC, that would just about make the perfect rifle.

That answer seems to satisfy nearly everyone is this thread. Or if they don’t wanna do another bolt size, maybe 6 GT or 6 creed.

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Changes from the original post. I swapped the bolt handle to a titanium handle. I removed the gel from the stock and sprayed a foam in it.

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Originally Posted by Fotis
everyone of them is sub moa.

Just for entertainment, what does that mean to you?

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460 Bee
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338 RPM Bee
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6.5x300 Bee

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338-378 Bee

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"Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""
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Lol lol lol impressive

3 shots. Statistically irrelevant. Good job on hitting the orange dot a couple of times lol lol.

Fudd clown shìt right there....

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Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
.............. Statistically irrelevant...

Correct, just like you and your opinions. You have nothing of substance.

Now do us a favor and go test yourself for extra chromosomes. Thank you.


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Originally Posted by Fotis
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.............. Statistically irrelevant...

Correct, just like you and your opinions. You have nothing of substance.

Now do us a favor and go test yourself for extra chromosomes. Thank you.

Do yourself a favor and actually zero your p.o.s. Weatherbys. Should be easy since "they're all sub moa" lol lol lol

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Another unsolicited premature spew by Jackin Handlob…


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The ignore button is there for a reason.

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Originally Posted by WAM
Another unsolicited premature spew by Jackin Handlob…

Boo-fùckung-hoo lol lol

My advice still stands, fotard should actually zero his weatherturds

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^^^^

Sure: it occasionally becomes apparent that some insist on only offering vitriol, or insisting their vitriol outweigh any value they bring to a topic. However, there’s a particular group that are just idiots with enough $/time to support their habits. They usually aren’t a problem, until they decide to take up forums and put their idiocy on blast. wink

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Originally Posted by Keechi_Kid
Originally Posted by pka45
If Kimber would just make a Hunter in 223 (1/7, 2.5" OAL of course) and/or 6 ARC, that would just about make the perfect rifle.

That answer seems to satisfy nearly everyone is this thread. Or if they don’t wanna do another bolt size, maybe 6 GT or 6 creed.

well, if you're gonna take on the x39 case then better make sure the 6.5 Grendel and new 22 Arc get the chambering also

totally agree and have said it long ago, the Grendel in a Kimber mountain rig would be dang nears perfect, as it is literally a 3/4 scale 308 in every way, 3/4 scale cartridge/bullet (123gr 6.5 vs the 168gr .308) and those featherweight stainless Montana's etc. would shoot well and keep recoil ft/lbs in the very shootable ranges, likely similar to a .243 to creed in a tikka recoil range

as it is...the universal cartridge 308 in the new sako peak 90 is 5 lb 10 oz and has a 20" threaded fluted barrel, no plastic, stainless or aluminum, wr fastest lock time, unreal trigger, flush detach mag (no plastic) that you can top feed like any decent crf, and unbelievable stock....it is the closest thing to perfect that you can get currently....oh can't forget to add that it has integral picatinny bases that let you actually get lower than useful for absolute proper cheek alignment, it's got a higher comb than tikka's, it's the first gun that with x-low options I actually had to come up to just low ring options to get the perfect match on alignment....

here's the kicker though....sako has an XS length action, in the 85....you could get the .223.....now imagine this sako 90 peak in XS length action with those unreal detach mags and everything else I just said....If I could have that in 6.5 Grendel my .308 would maybe go for sale....but we wait forever for the market to meet the brain don't we, how long did it take for the Finnish wizards to chamber 6.5 creedmoors lol....anyway, the Sako 90 peak in the x39 case cartridges with XS length action would out perfect anything Kimber could do, they would out shoot it, out fit and finish it, out feature it, a completely different class of quality...crf vs push....but when you consider that the only thing that cycles slicker than a sako is a tikka and after that it's semi-auto....the crf argument goes away really fast, so it's all sako 90 peak all day if this conversation is about the perfect stainless mountain type set up....nothing competes with it

I gave up waiting so just bought the universal cartridge as it's pretty perfect also in .308. Off the shelf availability globally or North America, the sheer volume of factory ammo options (I think 75 different options on cabelas usa website last I checked) which I think only the .223 came close to with about 62, 30-06 maybe had 42 options and it was downhill from there for everything else). It's as close as you can get if not there for perfect. Including .308 if you're actually looking for the perfect cartridge and you include being able to feed it from a shelf from anywhere anytime or find it during an apocalypse. wink

update, things are different on cabelas usa but still same story, the 308 is the number 1 by types available still, at 69 types of ammunition today, the 30-06 has come up 2nd at 57, the 300 win mag, 7 rem mag, .270 win are in the next tier down...6.5 Creedmoor is in that 2nd tier with 43 now...the .223 has tanked to only about 36 choices...I've seen that much higher....anyway, 308 is king and the universal cartridge and has been for ages and will be for ages, don't want to shoot the 30-06 in 5 lb guns lol

cabelas ammo choices, scroll the left column, see all calibers

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Well now you got me drooling for the micro Sako...

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Well now you got me drooling for the micro Sako...

That dream ended quickly once I saw the price. I bet they're sweet though!

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Originally Posted by pka45
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Well now you got me drooling for the micro Sako...

That dream ended quickly once I saw the price. I bet they're sweet though!

lol, sako's slogan is 'demand perfection' and it's on the box....which I have, it took me a long time, and the 90 model to finally get in the game, and it really is the closest thing to perfection you can get your hands on....but I had a lot of fun spending gobs of money chasing this and learning all this...so that's worth something lol, you can do it right once though...and sako 90 peak is it

but you're not going to see the XS length version on the x39 cases anytime soon....the Finnish may be perfect but the price is more than just dollars....it's time....and lots of it lol, the x39 based cartridges of the 21st century are definitely worthy of this perfection as they are the most efficient use of 30 grains of powder on the planet and it's a great powder class to cross all disciplines.....so hopefully people are catching on in the higher end firearms markets, build it....and we will come, 6.5-Grendel (the original gangster of 21st century 30gr powder burners), 6-Arc, 22-Arc....er....is it 6-Grendel and 22-Grendel? lol...same thing...they are all grendel's imo....anyway, it's a brilliant case and way to burn 30gr powder, I had to setup into the low 40gr powder class to get the perfect rifle...but I would have gone the 30gr class with the 6.5g if I could have, I'll be long gone by the time they get this right though

so keep dreaming

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Call me crazy, but I’m not buying into paying over 2x what a used Kimber would run you these days, and getting even 25% more rifle for the $. Maybe 25% more weight?

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