25 yards, I had put a 15 ft ladder stand together half up the hill on a creek bottom! He came walking under at 3 in the afternoon, Cold as a witches tit never stopped walking and grunting like a goat! Full rut and he had azz on his mind! I let him keep walking and turned and old 3x9 redfield TV scope down, model 100 winchester in 308, brainstemed him! Bang flop! I just sat there and said WTF just happened! I had set up on a scrape line trail! v best winpoor