After spending some time at the range today, I came to the conclusion that the 156gr Sako Deerhead (norma oryx I believe) shot much better groups than the 140 gr accubond. Even the 139 gr PPU cheap stuff was outshooting the accubonds. I was more than happy with them and my nine year old was too. He is quite excited to chase moose next month and black bears next spring with it. I'll probably limit him to inside 100 yds and a broadside shot, but if that shot presents itself we'll be cutting one up.