165,168 gr 30 cal or .308, Was a one gun whitetail man for 30+ years, just wilted whitetails up to 225# and 300 yards like you let the air out of em, Bang Flop, just go get the truck and load em up, dont bother walking and checking if they are dead or not cause they go down so fast you lose em in scope! I had one that just acted like he laid down, all four folded under and head laid over on rack! Beware the one gun man! I have no idea how many cals I own now! very best WinPoor
