Sounds like they are still around. I hope I can find some. I shoot them only for squirrel hunting since they are so hard to come by here in southwest Indiana. I would snatch up all I could find at this point. Both the Eley and the RWS subsonic HP's will shoot just a little better in my rifles but for the price Winchesters are hard to beat. I believe they expand a little better as well.


Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude.

Thomas Jefferson