Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by StoneCutter
They can't do anything for themselves, they have to steal it from us. Even after they steal it, they still can't make it work right.


The Germans on the Western Front had that opinion of the Russians also.

Then they encountered the T34 Russian tank.

End result,...90,000 Germans taken captive and marched to Siberia.

3000 survived.


When the Russians came out with the SSN-14 it was ahead of our anti-submarine missiles of the time. The SSN-19 was very much a Russian design. Russians were also the first with the modern armored personal carrier with the BMP.

Russians are capable of some interesting work. They need to be watched, and not underestimated.

You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell