wldthg, I hear ya on the settin' you back part! haha. I hunt with a Charles Daly youth 20ga that weighs only 5.5 pounds and it kicks like a 12 ga. Got a little rossi 5 pounder 20 that will get you in the nose if not careful. lol I shoot hevi 13 7s in the daly, and it's good at 40 plus yards any day. I like the stock on your NEF.