Ben: Too bad they are discontinued. Great pants.

As a substitute, you might consider the First Lite Kanab pants. I bought a pair to use in Kansas. Used them all last week. They are wool mixed with something else,seem lighter but are surprisingly warm,resist all kinds of abuse so far.



I was impressed enough that I am getting a second pair. They come with suspenders which is pretty neat.




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.