I use the 260 LFN and 12 grs Longshot or 14 grs. Blue Dot or the 280 LFN and 11 grs. Longshot or 13.5 grs. Blue Dot.

Basically 45 ACP pressures with 44 WFN frontal area.

The 454429 or 270-SAA sub respectively.

Good for plinking or hunting; have used all bullets for both.