Jwp475, JRM40 did not say that short barrels are not louder, he said that the expectation of their noise and loss of velocity tend to be greater than they actually are. He seemed to have the experience with these particular cartridges in these particular barrel lengths to back up his claim, but you dismissed his personal experiences outright. That's what I took exception to. Again, he didn't say they weren't louder, he said the noise isn't anything to fear.

As for the quote at the bottom of each of your comments, it is in support of Obama, is it not? If I have missed the underlaying meaning, than mea culpa, I am the stupid one.