Originally Posted by djp
Never understand the desire to try to make a light rifle, and then offer it in everything other than short action, saddle with a 24", heavier than needed, fluted barrel with muzzle brake....plus a detachable mag to add a bit more weight.

Regardless of what people think of Kimber...the 84M Montana is what companies should be thinking of when they want to design a "backcountry rifle". But hey, nobody asked me.


Yep. Forbes and Kimber did the template right with the 20B and 84M. Several specifics could be changed, but the overall light short action, light/stiff/blind mag stock, and sporter or less contour at 21-22" is the foundation.