Savage for me. I like Ruger but if I was going to buy a rifle that I wanted to slap a scope on, buy a box of factory ammo, head to the range, and expect the gun to show some decent groups, it would be a Savage. I would say that I have owned 30 or more different savages and have never owned one that wouldn't shoot. I have also owned several Coopers, Kimbers, Custom 700's, factory 700's, factory Rugers, sakos, 1 Nosler TGR 308,


" A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government"
G. Washington