Thanks 1minute. Doug this was the first time I had tried them with the Canon 5Diii and was very impressed. I am going to shoot some with my Nikon D500 that I just got from Joel when I have a clear night or next weekend in Arches. I am going to try a few at ISO 6400 and ISO 12,800 to reduce the shutter speed to 15 seconds and 8 seconds to see what it does.