I'd keep the 123 Amax off of shoulders if your shooting them at 200+ pound deer.... they can get a little zookey at 3000fps. I did kill one big bodied blacktail buck with one at about 40 yards.... it exited and the deer turfed poste haste... but that was a solid rib cage shot. They do mean ugly stuff to coyotes and other vermin though.... I've got some action shots that are pretty impressive....


You better pray to the God of Skinny Punks that this wind doesn't pick up......