Never hunted 13, but as for 11 we have only hunted it after a heavy snowfall and the migration is on. Unit 12 is a very good area with plenty of public areas. It is heavily hunted though and you would do better if you have or can rent horses to get a few miles away from the road. First season in 12 is rough...a sea of orange. Second season is better but still orange. The third season can be tough as well, depending on the year. There is a group of twenty hunters from California that come up every other year. I would suggest you look in the Thornburg Area of 12. Try along Milk creek. There is a campground close to a large lake that sometimes is not too busy. Hit and miss. Also, there are three outfitters in other areas of 12 and they do not go to the Thornburg area.
Good luck with your hunt.
