Thanks for the information. Sometimes you get what you pay for with Leupold its their lifetime warranty. Great Company, wish there were more companies that stand behind their products. I just got a Marlin 336A in 30-30 from my wife grandfather it was made in 1951.It has a peep sight on the back end. I can't wait to shoot it. May have to put down my Rem 700 in 270WSM for part of this deer season. Go back to old school on them.