So far a general consensus is 180 NPs or 165 NPs. I've never shot a Nosler bullet, no need to on eastern whitetails. I've heard that NPs can be difficult to find an accurate load. That being said I will be happy with anything in the 1" region, current load is half that. The reason I suggested Hornadys is my past experiences have been great shooting sst bullets in my 7mm RM.