Look at the trajectories of the old cartridges, 44-40, 38-40, 45-70, 45-90, etc. and of course a round ball 45 or 50 cal.
Hunters and market hunters wiped out deer, elk, turkeys, buffalo, and bears in many states with those cartridges.
30-30 is a speedster compared to those obsolete cartridges that decimated game populations before conservation practices came into place.
My grandfather had two rifles (pre-1900 1894 win 30/30 and a colt lightning 38-40), and six sons. My father and uncles all learned to hunt sharing that 38-40. Some of my older cousins used it too. It's still in the family, but worn out. It got to where it was just tumbling bullets.
