Just for fun, my 358 Herrett based on the 6.8 case. The Grendel case will have a little more shoulder, with the shoulder farther back. These are the Hornady 200gr SP and my own 255gr subsonic HP.
I would not consider this a varmint round, any more than a 35 Remington lever action would be.

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And with a 9mm bullet, compared to a 5.56 round. I was thinking I'd tried FMJ 9mm bullets, but it was actually 115gr Montana Gold JHP (.357 bullet) and 125gr Speer Gold dots.

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Last edited by Yondering; 04/24/17.